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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which problems? As far as I can tell this solves zero problems for users of websites. Wanting to replace captchas with this is just another arms race that normal users will suffer from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Well, captchas seem likely to become useless in the near future, and are currently a key feature used to prevent unwanted bot activity on many if not most websites. What can replace them?

Would this technology work better if there were a coalition of attesters that granted access to newer and smaller browsers and os makers?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

The point of the attestation is to show that given browser won't do some things. If the browser is open source on open source operating system the user can modify it in any way he wants, so not such attestation can be given to such browser.

Even if we are ok with attested browser being official builds never modified by users, then user could still fake it if they have full control of their operating system. So the operating system must also be attested, so it cannot be freely modified. And what is a point of open source then? You can see, but you cannot touch?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Nothing. Nothing should replace them.

You, as a website, unconditionally have zero right to know anything about what a user is doing on their computer.

Block behavior, not devices.

[–] Zeth0s 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How can the attester attest that a bot is not using a valid browser on a valid os?

[–] YourAvgMortal 1 points 2 years ago

It’s up to the attester to decide. Maybe it needs to run some verifications every so often. There’s nothing preventing it from refusing you attestation too, if your device is out of date, or is too old and won’t receive future updates