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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's an easier solution. A vehicle weight tax that actual laborers are exempted from. Weight is what damages the roads, so a weight tax would accomplish practical and ideological goals.

[–] ngdev 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why should actual laborers be exempt from them? Do you mean to say that if they drive a company truck, then they wouldn't have to pay weight taxes? (I would think it wise to have the company pay taxes for miles driven and weight of the vehicle driven during those miles)

[–] kautau 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah just because you’re an electrician for your day job doesn’t mean you need to own a pickup to drive to the company office where you’ll drive a company truck to job sites.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was more thinking contractors or farmers who use their own truck for work. Not people using company trucks

[–] kautau 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, if you’re a contractor using your own truck then you should be reimbursed by the company hiring you, which should offset the tax. If you’re a farmer, same thing, unless you own the farm, in which case your truck should be licensed as a commercial vehicle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just trying to get the idea passed people and those two groups are always the ones sea lioned about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm on a site with about 500 electricians right now. The vast majority of them don't drive company trucks. It's really just foremen, the general foreman, superintendent and various project managers and higher-ups.

[–] BombOmOm 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A vehicle weight tax

These large vehicles use more gas, and thus people with these large vehicles pay more in taxes. People already pay a vehicle weight tax.

[–] FellowEarthling 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Both then. You can't tax just gas because EV semis/trucks put plenty of wear on the road.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also the gas tax fluctuates based on prices but road wear does not.

[–] BombOmOm 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EVs are currently taxed every time they fill-up. Every watt you pull has a tax on it.

[–] Eheran 2 points 1 year ago

Everything (?) is taxed multiple times at some point. How does that matter in this context?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The damage done by heavy vehicles is disproportionate to their weight and fuel use. The current system is clearly broken but we shrug when tens of thousands of people die every year, carbon emissions continue to rise, and our roads are disintegrating.

[–] killa44 1 points 1 year ago

This sounds like the CAFE debacle all over again....