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[DISCUSSION] Secret Invasion S01E06 - Home | Pre-Watch Discussion (NO Spoilers, Speculation and Theories Allowed) (self.marvelstudios)
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All hope for humanity rests on Fury's shoulders.
EPISODE RELEASE DATE RUNTIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E06: Home July 26th, 2023 on Disney+ 37m None
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[–] Huxleywaswrite -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know what really disappoints me? Watching people that don't enjoy something dominate the conversation around it.

All of this whining, "it's not enough", "I was expecting more". Those are you problems. I've been really enjoying it. We got to see the birth of super skrulls, we learned how fury rose to the top, key figures have been replaced, we got easter eggs and cameos reflecting that other parts of the world have their own nick furys, we've seen great performances by the actors and its been an enjoyable show.

If you don't enjoy it, don't dwell on it so much. I promise you your disappointment is based more on your unrealistic expectations and not the product you received.

[–] canthidium 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't help but be reminded of the saying "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole".

The conversation is dominated by people being disappointed because for most fans, the show is disappointing. I'm glad you're enjoying it, but the whole point of these threads is to discuss the episodes. I could say the same thing that you being disappointed in everyone else not liking it is a you problem. The Secret Invasion comics were such a huge event that affected the entire universe and everyone in it, but this show just feels like...nothing. Of course you can't 100% adapt the comic, but this show is just devoid of all the impact the comics had. Of course most fans are going to be disappointed. We literally have source material to guide our expectations.

If you don’t enjoy it, don’t dwell on it so much. I promise you your disappointment is based more on your unrealistic expectations and not the product you received.

You act like we're just sitting around all day being mad at the show. You're in the discussion thread specifically made for thoughts about the show. That's the outlet for thoughts about it and then we go on with our lives. It seems more like you are the one with the outlying opinion, and that's fine, but don't act like just because you're enjoying it, everyone else's opinion is invalid.

[–] Huxleywaswrite -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We don't just sit around hating the shows all day"

Says the guy that started a new episode thread three days before the episode releases to complain about it.

[–] canthidium 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, I'm a mod of this community and I make the discussion threads every week. I didn't just make a random thread to complain. No wonder you're enjoying the show so much, you're not paying attention.

[–] Huxleywaswrite -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, because I pay the same attention to a good story as I do to a whiny community online. Sad to see that an worthwhile discussion of the MCU died with reddit.

[–] canthidium 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sad to see that an worthwhile discussion of the MCU died with reddit.

Sounds like a "you" problem.

[–] ClarkDoom 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sir, I just wanna call out that having plot points in a show doesn’t make it good. There’s a common notion thrown around today in response to this reductive line of thinking that “plot does not equal good”. Tv and movies are visual mediums with different components that have to come together in a cohesive way to actually create something worthwhile. Secret Invasion cares about nothing but plot - it doesn’t care about writing, direction, cinematography, costume/ set design, or literally anything that the audience can reasonably pick up on. It only cares about serving up whatever plot points are bare bones required for whatever the next marvel show is.

You cannot promise with any degree of honesty or integrity that all the negative reception to this bad show is from people who have unrealistic expectations.

[–] Huxleywaswrite -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of the complaints I've seen boil down to: " but i wanted it to be this". And yes, that's all on unrealistic expectations.

There was a common opinion for a while among marvel fans that fan theories were mostly trash, and it sounds like it still holds true. You guys all had expectations from this show that were not based on what the show promised to be. You wanted it to be exactly like it would be in your head, but you aren't writing or making it, so it won't be and then you get annoyed about it. Get over it.

[–] ClarkDoom 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My primary complaint with the show is the abysmally bad script, the lackluster direction, and completely lack of momentum and pacing. Those are completely separate from complaints that stem from expectations. Even so, Secret Invasion is an adaptation - creators who make adaptations have to account for expectations as a requirement for doing the project else they should make an original work and call it something else.