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Elon Musk blamed trans people for recent Tesla attacks after his daughter, Vivian Jenna Wilson, called him a "pathetic man-child."

Musk shared false data on trans violence and claimed hormone therapy causes volatility. He linked trans identity to attacks on Tesla cars and dealerships, citing unverified reports of trans suspects.

Musk’s comments followed Wilson’s interview where she condemned his far-right shift and disavowed responsibility for his views.

Critics accused Musk of scapegoating trans people amid Tesla's financial decline and political controversies.

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[–] boughtmysoul 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now that the Trump administration is treating Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism, Musk has connected Trans people to domestic terrorism.

Whether or not he meant to (I don’t know if his Ketamine and amphetamine addled brain even comprehends cause and effect), this is a stated goal of Project 2025: criminalizing Trans people.

[–] theshoeshiner 1 points 37 minutes ago

I'm all for tesla dealership vandalism, but doesn't it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism? It's violence against noncombatants to achieve political aims. Whether we agree with it or not doesn't really change that definition.

[–] andros_rex 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

An argument I read recently is that the Nazi plan for gay and trans people wasn’t “genocide” per se. It was a mental health issue or deficiency to be cured. More a project of conversion therapy. In effect, it was wanton slaughter and being a “pink triangle” prisoner was about as bad as you could get, but Himmler had ideas like having gay men fuck prostitutes in the camps (women promised a better life than Ravensbrück - they’d end up on the trains to Auschwitz after). Like you could supposedly be cured, so the goal would be to fix you before giving up and eliminating you, at least in theory.

They’ll have trans people declared mentally ill for being trans and institutionalized. The institutionalization won’t have the goal of killing us, but the people put in charge of caring for us will exploit their power. We will be sexually abused, chemically castrated, and physically abused. This will happen under the appearance of mental health treatment, so it will be invisible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

good thing the mental health system is already so functional transparent and safe, so it's a long way to go beteen here and there.

[–] andros_rex 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

Yeah! There’s so much state oversight that insures that patients are both protected from physical assault and that reports of such assault aren’t consider symptomatic of mental illness!

It’s not as if they’re black boxes which can take your phone away, transport you against your will across county lines and lie to you because you said you felt so sad that you were considering not being alive anymore.

[–] boughtmysoul 10 points 1 day ago

They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.

Although with Musk connecting being Trans with attacking Teslas, and the Trump administration treating attacking Teslas as domestic terrorism, I could absolutely foresee Trans people eventually being sent to CECOT and never leaving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding was that queerness was a Jewish plot for control. They treated it like a disease that could infect the entire population if left unchecked.

Sort of like the "woke mind virus".

[–] andros_rex 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Their understanding was flexible, and changed especially at the end when they started losing the war. Josef Kohout, author of the men with the pink triangle got picked up after a love affair with the son of a fairly high up member of the party. That man got a light treatment, while Kohout was sent to the camps - it was possible to understand homosexual desire as “a failing of youth.” Near the end of the war, one could be liberated by agreeing to be castrated and sent out to the front.

It’s like alt right movements today - the ideology is flexible. It’s a worship of masculine power above all.

Think about the weird prevalence of Nazi femboys (thinking about Nick Fuentes boyfriend….) Being homosexual is only wrong if it’s done in a way that’s “queer.” Getting your dick sucked by some f€ggot on Grindr isn’t “gay” because the power structure has not been violated. Kohout is pretty pointed in his account when he talks about how the only difference between the kapos and officers that desired him and himself was that he wanted to love his partner. That’s gay shit - that’s the problem. Not wanting to marry a woman and pump out white babies, while fooling around with lower social status men on the side.