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Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[–] Seleni 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I once saw it described on Lemmy that Conservatives have sympathy but no empathy.

[–] someguy3 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I saw a Ted talk that talked about inability to entertain the hypothetical. Some people are simply unable to entertain the hypothetical "what if my wife is deported', they can only recognize it when it becomes "my wife is being deported ".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think both (edit: lack of) Empathy and this inability are required.

Inability to entertain the hypothetical is a failure in the pure logic reasoning side, quite independent of Empathy.

So, even the purest of sociopaths (hence, no Empathy whatsoever) can reason that "this can turn around and bit me" and thus not do certain things against others purelly for the selfish reason of not wanting to risk it coming around and bitting them.

Meanwhile those with Empathy will partly feel the emotions of others when observing them, and also when imagining "how does/will this make them feel". They don't tend to do things that hurt others because they themselves end up feeling some of the pain via their own Empathy.

So people with high Empathy won't even want to do things to hurt others because it feels bad, those with low or no Empathy but an ability to entertain the hypothetical won't support certain kinds of things that will hurt large groups of "others" purelly because of the higher risk that they themselves might directly or indirectly end up worse off from it and only the ones combining low Empathy and that inability to entertain the hypothetical (or just being too stupid to even begin to understand the risks of those things) will actual support such broad attacks on "others".

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've heard that some people have difficulty with hypotheticals in general. not just on political issues, like it's a surprisingly common cognitive issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

And they confuse the two and think they're being empathetic. I'm not even sure they have sympathy anymore.