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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's unfortunate because his leadership / sense of taste is what made Apple a powerhouse. Under Tim Apple, the software has languished. They're great at hardware and the software is far from great. What a shame.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

"leadership" by which you mean being abusive to his colleagues and refusing to take a shower.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

He was a dick, but he had a good mind for products. He wasn't infallible, but he had a sense of taste that was useful in driving others who had greater skills than he.

[–] moseschrute 1 points 7 hours ago

Fact check: he did shower. It’s just his definition of a shower was plunging his feed in the company toilets.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Eh, I feel like Jobs was in charge when he could create new products.

Outside of a different Apple Watch launch, I don't see Jobs really having the ability to create new innovative products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah computers were doubling in speed every 18 months back then. And there were competing products oftentimes years before Apple put out their version. Apple primarily put a lot of polish onto the technological innovations that were happening at the time.

Don't get me wrong polish is really important. Apple didn't invent the MP3 player or the smartphone. But the MP3 players before the iPod were really fiddley and janky. BlackBerries had a downright primitive look and feel next to an iPhone.

Also marketing... a lot of people didn't know MP3 players existed until they saw advertisements for the iPod.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He didn't create new products. He conducted the people who were creating new products and steered them. He wasn't a genius. He was good at guiding people who were.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying Jobs was a genius, but he was skilled at leading product design teams that turned cutting edge hardware to practical applications that the market could understand.

And, in general, the market over the past few years has seen little hardware innovation.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 3 points 6 hours ago

What? Microsoft is putting an AI key on every keyboard! Now there's two keys to replace if you don't run windows. If that's not innovation, I don't know what is.