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Microsoft suddenly getting ordered by the DoJ to pull offending projects from github Or Else.
if that happens, people should migrate to gitlab or forgejo. gitlab is a Ukrainian company, and forgejo development is primarily driven by Codeberg in Germany.
people should just automatically push to all three as a backup from the start, tbh
They don’t need to, because git is already decentralized. All the history is usually on everyone’s computers.
it's not the history though it's the releases, readmes, or issues for people who are interested in the project but aren't contributors
It's not just about git. It's also about issued, PRs, comments, security advisory, and so on
Any opinions on gitea? Idk I’ve been using it for about a year and it works nicely
of the gogs family tree it's my middle favorite.
forgejo gets the edge because of federation. gitea's corporate situation is less than ideal. gogs simply doesn't have the features to be a complete solution
Gitlab was created by a ukranian and dutch developer originally but today Gitlab stock is traded on Nasdaq and its HQ is listed as San Francisco (wikipedia). I use it selfhosted but I don't think gitlab.com can be seen as European anymore.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I self host forgejo. GitHub is the better service because of their super fast ci servers, the GitHub actions that just work, and also because collaboration is tied to the network effect
I think you might be right for the simple reason that (based on that same source and my presumption of their names ) all the C* people seem to be American as well.
Dammit really need to stop setting up HQs in US. It's the same for archive.org and wikipedia.
Or better yet, they should just go ahead and do so right now. What's the point of picking Github over the other better alternatives anyway?
(i agree entirely, but i have to accept a lot of people just go wherever the most users are)
It's a version control system, not social media!
I get that you're explaining it, not endorsing it, and so this criticism isn't directed at you, but the notion that people would pick Github over Gitlab or Codeburg because of the bandwagon effect is just dumb and weird.
I agree and also don't at the same time. It's coming from a genuine place of you get more driveby contributions on Github than you do Gitlab or Codeberg, but at the same time, people will ultimately go where the projects are, and I think the more open source code we host on Codeberg the more users we'll get on Codeberg, and the more Codeberg users we get the more driveby contributions projects will get on Codeberg. Like I get where an individual project is coming from preferring Github over Codeberg, BUT where we are currently where everyone is preferring Github over codeberg is ultimately just us strangling ourselves. I think when Microsoft bought GitHub and a lot of projects moved to Codeberg, and then again when Microsoft started pushing Copilot hard... IDK, I guess what I'm getting at is WHAT IS THE HOLD UP PEOPLE! Move your projects to Codeberg! And when you're looking for solutions to problems you're having, look on Codeberg first. For one thing, it's actually lowkey nicer to use at this point, and it does have enough traction that you should get enough driveby contributions to be worth your while
I find it weird that one can sign in to codeberg with a github account.
I was not aware of that! Hopefully it encourages drivebys!
Didn't know that. Thanks for the tidbit of lore. :)
I had no idea that Gitlab was Ukrainian.
makes sense why it "just fucking works", unlike github.
Is this like that meme about houseplants and potatoes?
Github - aww, someone called out API too much I guess I'll just die
Gitlab - I am in a fucking warzone and you don't see that stopping me.