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[–] TommySoda -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You could look at any country in the world and find leaders that were just as bad and even worse throughout history. I think the takeaway should be that shitty people exist. Some of it is a product of the times, some of it just being awful people. Shitty people have and always will exist.

Edit: With these downvotes it almost seems like y'all thought I was defending them. I absolutely was not defending them. :)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US Empire is definitely one of the worst States to exist in history, though, consistently.

[–] TommySoda 4 points 1 day ago

Can't deny that. The ratio of good/bad presidents is definitely abysmal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

At least they didn't carve them into a mountain though?

[–] stickly 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They absolutely would have if they had the resources to swing it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And then they would have removed them later. Just like all the statues of Adolf Hitler, which no longer exist.

[–] stickly 1 points 7 hours ago

Lmao what the fuck is this take? Somebody tell Egypt to start tearing down the pyramids. There are 1000s of Roman monuments still standing that celebrate specific conquests of slavers. Why are there still statues of shitty imperial colonizers all over Europe?

You only get your blood-monuments torn down when your state is systematically destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

This is an ml community. Anything that praises the USA or normalizes it (that is, reducing the awfulness) is gonna get down votes.