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I enjoy the game but these practices need calling out. I didn’t realise how bad it was when I purchased it. The whole marketing for this game is awful as well, it’s the first game I’ve needed a user made guide to show me which version to purchase.
Honestly in many aspects the old games are far superior anyway. So many awesome levels. Strongly recommended checking out Blood Money Reprisal on iOS and Android as well.
oo i will check it out
and yea it was confused as fuck to find what game to get. its apparently world of assasination but u also need chapters which are dlc but also not really. its stupid and hard for no reason. only matched by how confusing buying an xbox is
Yepp it’s pretty ridiculous. I purchased most of the game but still missed on 3 DLC levels I wanted purely because the cost to add them was ridiculous.
i get 1-4 new games a year at most to play, almost never AAA games. but i liked hitman as a teen and i heard praises for the 'new' ones online so i tried the 'new' one. the confusing 'what to buy' and so many different bundles on steam already confused me so i did what anyone would and use the dark side to get it. realizing that its online bs made me not willing to buy it anymore, i have gone through days without any internet and that has made me immediately get erked when anything requires internet to functional properly.
and i kinda didnt like the missions, i heard freelancer mode solves the issues of following directions and steps (like in the original games u could just do whatever to finish). but i cant try it offline, and its not worth really setting up things just for one game. ill try peacock tonight (mostly bc sunk cost on time lol) but im not supporting the game financially with all this bs
Absolutely understandable. I didn’t get it that way purely because I personally get very anxious about viruses etc when it comes to sourcing games/software. But I did deliberately get a key off a grey market site to give them as little profit as possible.
I also hate how handholdy all the fun stuff is, it totally removes that element of working it out yourself which felt so good in the previous games. I haven’t tried freelancer mode yet, I’ll give it a go.
Interesting - how are the old games better? To me, the World of Assassination trilogy is peak hitman, a condensation of all they've learned from the past many games, and an all-round improvement on Blood Money.
Oh I hear you, the new hitman games are far from bad, and I agree with you they are kinda a culmination of lessons learned in the previous games.
The main thing which bothers me is the handholding, where it comes up “mission story revealing” and then guides you. I’d love to at least pretend I’m working it out for myself. I understand you can turn that off, but I’ve also read online that doing so skips some story dialogue, would love it to turn out that’s wrong.
It’s also down to personal preference for me; I just happen to prefer some of the levels from the classic games. I also dislike the UI and general vibe of the new ones, how it feels like a live service. I appreciate my word choice of “superior” was overly strong in hindsight, I really meant it subjectively and was not trying to make a reaching claim. Both classic and new are very good, marketing and DRM aside.
The handholding is too much, I agree, but I had honestly forgotten it since I turn off that and the minimap at the start of each game. It doesn't seem to skip any dialogue, I've at least not seen any dialogue online that wasn't in my game, but I guess I wouldn't know.
Overall the games are indeed not that challenging if you know a little about what you're doing, but I appreciate that you can set your own challenge, and be rewarded in-game for e.g. silent assassin or suit only runs.
Yepp doing Silent Assassain / Suit Only really adds the challenge back in where the handholding takes it away. It’s what I’ve spent most of my time with the game doing.
That said, thanks for your insight on having the guides turned off. It’s only just hit me I can always just turn it off and replay levels I’ve already done to see what I miss, if anything. So I’ll do that next time I play.