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[–] [email protected] 92 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (12 children)

What about that bloke who started all this stuff about alpha and beta wolves?

[–] kameecoding 52 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Well he made bad research, then disproved it, but couldn't bottle back all the incels who ran with that shit

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Part of the irony being that even if it were true, there is no reason to make assumptions about human behavior and social structure based on other animals, especially… wild canines? Wtf? There’s a lot of different pack/grouping types throughout the animal kingdom—if anything it would make sense to compare humans to other apes, but at the end of the day it’s still a totally different species that also lacks the social complexity as well as culture and lifestyles humans are capable of because of our higher intelligence. We have some really fucking stupid cultural hang-ups

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

being human is about communicating and learning new behaviors. Both of those take work and practice, so there's selective pressure for a narrative that justifies not putting it in. If there hadn't been the alpha/wolf thing then we'd just be having this conversation about some other silly story that served the same function.

[–] roguetrick 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Inside you there are two wolves, my friend. One is society and the other is society. We live in a society.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

inside you there are two wolves, they are crucial for keeping the deer population under control

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago

I think it fits.

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