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Conservatism Saved As Muslim Sex Trafficker Brought Back To U.S. (babylonbee.com)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are you suggesting that there are mainstream (are other) sects of Islam that teach that the "justified" response to a marriage proposal rejection is an acid attack...?

[–] LustyArgonianMana -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are extremist sects of Islam (not the vast majority of Muslims, who are extremely charitable and who invented the first hospital, which was free, among many other things) that have incorporated acid attacks on women as a form of what they see as valid punishment, yes, and they have supporters who think this is a good thing to do and that the women deserve it for tempting the men. It is not ONLY people in these groups or who are Muslim who do acid attacks ofc, acid attacks are a global issue.

I have seen interviews and discussions by women who've been attacked with acid and that is what they describe in terms of public sentiment ("she deserved it,") and thus their advocacy work centralizes around changing those beliefs.

https://resurge.org/stories/two-acid-attack-survivors-meet-for-the-first-time/

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/acid-attacks-pakistans-worst-social-epidemic

Here's a brief list of countries and some incidents and explains motivating factors for the attacks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a societal issue. You still haven't sourced which sect justifies it. If you said something like this with Judaism, you would be called an anti semite. You are making up a claim with some examples, not proving your claim. Or do you just not understand what a sect means?

There are extremist sects of Islam that have incorporated acid attacks on women as a form of what they see as valid punishment, yes

Name them

[–] LustyArgonianMana -3 points 1 day ago

I literally already did, it's in the Wikipedia article I linked, in the region area. Clearly you didn't bother to look.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

Afghanistan

Such attacks or threats against women who failed to wear hijab, dress "modestly" or otherwise threaten traditional norms have been reported in Afghanistan.[111] In November 2008, extremists subjected girls to acid attacks for attending school.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/world/asia/14kandahar.html

The attacks appeared to be the work of the Taliban, the fundamentalist movement that is battling the government and the American-led coalition. Banning girls from school was one of the most notorious symbols of the Taliban’s rule before they were ousted from power in November 2001.

The Levant

In 1983, acid attacks were reported to be carried out by Mujama al-Islamiya against men and women who spoke out against the Mujama in the Islamic University of Gaza.[123] Additional attacks by Mujama al-Islamiya were reported through 1986

During the First Intifada, Hamas and other Islamist factions conducted an organized intimidation of women to dress "modestly" or wear the hijab. Circulars were distributed specifying proper modest dress and behavior. Women who did not conform to these expectations, or to "morality expectations" of secular factions, were vulnerable to attacks which included pouring acid on their bodies, rock pelting, threats, and even rape.[125][123][126] B'Tselem has also documented additional attacks with acid in specific attacks involving women in a collaboration context.

In 2006–07, as part of a wider campaign to enforce Islamist moral conduct, the al-Qaida affiliated "Suyuf al-Haq" (Swords of Righteousness) claimed to have thrown acid on the faces of "immodestly" dressed woman in Gaza as well as engaging in intimidation via threats.

And I'm totally comfortable saying that there are Jewish extremist groups who commit terrorism to harm others as well. And there's Christian and Buddhist groups that do that as well. It's not antisemitic or Islamophobic to literally describe what people are doing, per survivors from those groups. That it makes those specific Islamic groups look bad is, well, on them. Don't burn people with acid. Don't genocide Gazans. Etc.

And as I've already said, yes, other people and other groups burn people with acid too. That's not really relevant to my original comment though, which is about how Islamic sects will likely not tolerate someone like the Tates, even if those same people do other things that harm women. Yes, there is abuse of women in Islam with some groups, including acid attacks, but that abuse is often informed by the moral code of those practitioners and absolutely nothing the Tates do is justifiable by the religion. The idea of the Prophet Mohammed being okay with sex trafficking - that’s extremely offensive. It's an extreme moral incompatibility that will likely result in conflict since he is harming real people pretty indiscriminately.