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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are losing money on their 200$ subscriber plan afaik. These "goalposts" are all saying the same thing.

It is a dead end because of the way it's being driven.

You brought up 100 billion by 2030. There's no revenue, and it's not useful to people. Saying there's some speculated value but not showing that there's real services or a real product makes this a speculative investment vehicle, not science or technology.

Small research projects and niche production use cases aren't 100b. You aren't disproving it's hypetrain with such small real examples.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I appreciate the more substantial reply.

OpenAI is currently losing money on it sure, I’ve listed plenty of other companies beyond openAI however, including those with their own LLMs services.

GenAI is not solely 100b nor ChatGPT.

but not showing that there's real services or a real product

I’ve repeatedly shown and linked services and products in this thread.

this a speculative investment vehicle, not science or technology.

You aren't disproving it's hypetrain with such small real examples

This alone I think makes it pretty clear your position isn’t based on any rational perspective. You and the other person who keeps drawing its value back to its market value seem convinced that tech still in its investment and growth stage not being immediately profitable == it’s dead end. Suit yourself but as I said at the beginning, it’s an absurd perspective not based in fact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If it doesn't have real revenue, it can't pay for it's carbon footprint and will/should be regulated.

If there's no known way to prevent these models from regurgitating copywrited works if they are trained on those works, how will it not be regulated that way?

Like I said, the way it's driven now. It could be done differently.