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It's amazing how they fumbled this. There was a time when video calls were Skype. Everybody was using Skype, everybody had it installed, people used it to chat and then ... something happened. Microsoft did nothing. Or did the wrong kind of stuff. Software started to suck. And when the pandemic came, Zoom took over and nobody even tried to use Skype. That really, really are some bad business decisions there
It didn't "start to suck", they intentionally transitioned it, from old lean clients working over p2p usable in unbelievably bad connectivity conditions, to something server-based and fat laggy clients with typical Microsoft quality. They they turned off authentication servers for the old Skype.
If the old Skype were still functional today, nobody would say it sucks. OK, maybe no stickers and such.
i realize i haven't been able to send files for years now because all the p2p platforms have disappeared.
Everything is centralized and able to be tracked. That is not coincidence
https://lemmy.world/comment/15367515 - yes ; so I think the idea of an IM that could replace it with the functionality normal for it belongs not to the tech realm (all parts solved separately), but to social studies and market studies realm. Somehow there is a technology that has defeated all competition thrown at it, it's called bittorrent.
yeah i'm not going to put in the effort of creating a torrent for some local file i made on my system and then teach people how to use traditional method of download outside of an app store (this assuming they even have a PC since most people only have phones nowadays and then you can forget torrents), install and setup a bittorrent client (after explaining what a client is and does) only so i can drag and drop a torrent file into the chat for them to download LIKE WE USED TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH ALL FILES back in the day. the point is; software technology has literally and artificially been REGRESSED to 56k era limitations.
I'm talking about technology, not UX.
And bittorrent is an example of something that was done technically and socially right so it's still alive and isn't going anywhere.
So - how does one make a p2p FOSS messenger that people will use. Skype is proprietary, but the closest thing to success in recent history (not counting IRC with XDCC, amateur radio, light signals and pigeons).
The way internet got developed does make you wonder if it could have been done better if it weren't for grifter class always engineering shit to middle man.
Here is some free cloud boy, enjoy, trust me, I will never sell your data and start charging fees while degrading quality of this great thing.
That's Microsoft for you