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Tulsi Gabbard fires more than 100 intelligence officers over messages in a chat tool
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Are they also purging everyone in the agency that ever texted about hooking up with someone over the weekend? Please. People talk about their sex lives all the time, even at work. They just make sure to discuss it an appropriate context. And this discussion group was just that kind of appropriate context.
Again, are they firing everyone who ever texted about a weekend hookup? If not, then it's simple bigotry. Even using lurid words like "gangbang" is honestly almost a slur in this context. Do I participate in that kind of romance? Personally, no. I'm monogamous myself. But I also recognize overt, rank, and despicable bigotry when I see it.
This is how bigotry puts on a polite face. You declare certain sexual practices as obscene while consider others polite and acceptable. On cis het guy brags to another about the time they hooked up with two chicks in one weekend? That's just a player. A queer person has multiple partners and chooses a poor word to describe it? Suddenly it's worth firing every trans person in the agency.
You clearly don't hate this administration enough, as you are completely willing to accept their framing that certain sexualities are inherently deviant and shameful.
Lol, right; the NSA set up a chat for people to talk about sex. That's what they meant - not "Let's have a chat for people to ask about how to address their trans coworkers, other questions of etiquette, and generally make a spot that is welcoming and supportive". They, the NSA, wanted their workers to have a safe space to talk about sex.
I don't talk about fucking my partner with my colleagues over work-provided (let alone government-provided) chat channels; it's not a question of the number of partners or what gender those partners might be, but the fact that if you talk about having sex at work you're probably going to have repercussions.
Just to address a few pieces of your response:
I don't know, are they not? The article you linked doesn't include a lot of quotes. Is there a difference in the language used between the two?
Sure they do, but they don't type it into chat on a server they don't control. That would possibly be the dumbest thing I can imagine someone doing. Fantastic amounts of dumb.
Not anymore than my own - I'm not trying to preach about anybody's morality, I'm probably more "deviant" than most in those chats, but I sure as fuck don't talk about it at work; if I did I wouldn't be putting it in the record.
Who said they were queer? Straight people can have gangbangs. Maybe an ally who had a fantastic weekend brought everyone down. Still a stupid thing to type in.
If you don't think there are limits to what can be talked about in the workplace, regardless of the medium, well I don't know what to tell you. I don't know anyone in meatspace that would be surprised when someone who talked about sex in a public sector job got fired. In the end the current admin were going to do it anyways, but they got a solid reason gift-wrapped because folks were being dumb about a work chat.
Donald Trump probably said worse than what was in those chats - he talked about his own daughter ffs. He paid off prostitutes. He got peed on by a prostitute. Theres so much stuff out there about him and what he did and said that its shocking and overwhelming... Yet he's the president. They can fuck right off with their fake moralising and fake religious prudishness.