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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, we need a physical age limit. Aside from needing to get new people in so that we can pass on institutional knowledge before their staffers are voting for them while they hang out in a nursing home.

The fact that we live in a gerontocracy is part of the reason we're in so much shit in general. Why should the 83 yo senator from Bumblefuckia give a fuck about climate change, they'll be dead way before it's a problem. Why do they care about proper financial regulations when it might impact their ability to insider trade and pass off their unearned wealth to their kids.

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Why should the 83 yo senator from Bumblefuckia give a fuck about climate change, they’ll be dead way before it’s a problem.

They shouldn't. I wouldn't consider them wise if they didn't give a fuck about it. Wise people think of the future as well as the present.

Just for the record, I'm not defending her personally (hence my "giving someone else a chance to drive the car" comment), I'm pushing back against Ageism in general. Biological age is not always a good indicator for capability (see Bernie Sanders).

Not sure why people keep conflating age with capability/morality, they're definately seperate things.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure why people keep conflating age with capability/morality, they're definately seperate things.

Because while they may be different things, but they're absolutely not separate things given how age and cognitive decline are correlated. Because for every Bernie sanders you have multiple Feinsteins or Grangers that are at best not there or at worst hindering processes, holding up committee votes or taking up committee seats that could be used by someone who actually wants to improve things instead of making the line go up.

Bernie is an exception who proves the rule, unfortunately.

[–] CosmicCleric 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

they’re absolutely not separate things given how age and cognitive decline are correlated.

Of course, degradation comes with age, but when I say they are still separate, what I'm saying is the degree of degradation is not exactly the same for every human being, but people judge ALL older people as having the same level of severe degradation, and that is Ageism.

Bernie is a proof of what I'm saying, that not everyone degrades at the same amount/rate over the same amount of time, and it is possible to have elderly people that are very sharp-minded and very capable of doing the job, plus having the wisdom of surviving those years and the knowledge they built up from doing so to be beneficial to the rest of society.

The prejudice of Ageism really shouldn't be justified. Anyone over a certain age shouldn't just automatically be thrown away, there are younger people who could have mental illness that are not capable of doing a job, so age does not directly relate to capability, physical and emotional status of the brain does.

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