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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really hard to see Trump like this as we all see the real piece of shit that he is, but he really does have a type of charisma that Vance doesn't. He also doesn't have the instinct that Trump has as far as "good" insults, or how vicious he is with complete disregard for when to insult people. MAGA love that. I really don't see them getting behind Vance like they did Trump.

I really believe the GOP was on the way out, they absolutely got saved by Trump though... They were quickly running out of people who could motivate the right. We just happen to live in the worst timeline where they got their conman. :/

[–] captainlezbian 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, Trump is best thought of as fascist Bernie. Neither of these men are good orators, they aren't appealing to their enemies, but they're hypnotic to their supporters. Going to a Bernie rally in 2016 was electric. It was an old man yelling about politics, but it was an old man yelling about how I deserved better and that the people who screwed me and my fellow Americans over need to pay to fix it. I imagine Trump feels the same way, except he's not calling for payment in the form of money to provide Healthcare and a more equitable society.

It's similar to how you gotta remember that Hillary is shockingly charismatic one on one, she just really isn't when speaking to a crowd