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Just because we didn't quite fill enough buckets with arguing about the Budapest memorandum, the first time around

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[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From an article I read about this:

"We must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective," [US Defense Secretary] Hegseth said, referring to the year Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine. "Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering."

Why is that an "illusionary goal"? That should be the bare minimum goal. I'd say that plus some sort of restitution and Putin being jailed would be the ideal outcome, but getting their territory back should be the main non-negotiable.

[โ€“] Sanctus 4 points 1 week ago

Its illusionary because Trump has to pay Putin back and Ukraine was promised for meddling in our elections while Musk suppressed the vote.