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Support for Germany’s far-right AfD is surging among young men, driven by concerns over immigration, conservative values, and distrust of mainstream politics.

A Pew study found 26% of German men view AfD positively, compared to 11% of women.

Social media, particularly TikTok, has helped spread its message. Some young supporters reject accusations of extremism, while others openly embrace far-right views.

Analysts warn that if mainstream parties ease their opposition to the AfD, it could become Germany’s dominant right-wing party.

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[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I see. "Women doing tiktoks" control the men who control virtually all of the media which is why they can't teach other men how to be men.

It all makes sense when you put it that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's you who's talking about "all media". I'm talking about one specific example "ick tiktoks", stuff I have to deal with in martial arts classes, because freshly-minted teens get confused as fuck about it.

Who are these men that are flooding tiktok with ick content? Making my job harder?

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The person I was talking to before you butted in. Literally.

You apparently wished to change the subject without announcing you were doing so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't say it's a shift. Only a subset of media is relevant when it comes to boys. I didn't pull those ick tiktoks out of my hat as a "gotcha" example, this is the type of problematic media that I have to deal with because that's what my students are exposed to. They're not watching linear TV so that doesn't matter, they're not reading newspapers so those don't matter, the vast majority of the established news media sphere doesn't matter and Hollywood is well-balanced by anime, not many issues there. It's fiction in the first place which gets perceived differently, the veracity of tiktok trends can be much harder to asses for teens. Rambo is badass because it's an action flick, they understand that it's a fantasy. Any martial arts movie? The same, and in a martial arts class that's a teaching moment right there, how "making it look cool" and "making it effective" are two completely different things. That ick stuff? They take it at face value, on a deep level.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they're not watching feminists on TikTok either. Maybe the weird boys who go to your martial arts classes do. The rest of them watch whoever they've moved on to since Andrew Tate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's a semi-random feed. Tiktok throws things at you and if something sticks, they're showing more of it. Pretty much all know about the stuff, many dismiss it, for some it's self-image fentanyl: Both incredibly addictive and destructive: At their age they're looking for information on what girls "really want", and what they get is "anything you do is a possible reason to dump you and you'll never be able to predict what I consider icky the next second" instead of something even remotely sensible. They're seeing their prospects to, at some time, enter a long-term relationship with someone they love shatter, instincts denied, instinct reconfigures and re-affirms themself (because it always does) and now you have someone vulnerable to Tateist propaganda, "grab her by the pussy and make her your bitch". Because that kind of "solution" is way more easy than working through the whole shebang. Without guidance it's pretty much impossible, they're too young. They can't tell their drive to relate and their reproductive drive apart and thus can't see that the Tate way actually denies them one drive to assert the other, while they could have both. Heck they can barely control their limbs.

What I'm saying is that it would be very helpful if that content didn't exist. I could call Tate a loudly barking Chihuahua who got his "world champion" title in an amateur organisation and leave it at that instead of having to go into depth fucking psychology. I hope we can agree on that.