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[–] finitebanjo 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They continuously call it to vote and Republicans continuously block it. We should make it a real money where their mouth is situation and convince a few Republicans to pass it or just give Dems 60 seats. Let's test your theory.

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They continuously call it to vote and Republicans continuously block it.

We gave them a large enough majority. They preferred having the filibuster to having credibility.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, we actually didn't. Over a decade ago we gave them only 58 votes for only 72 days and we've given them less every election since.

Caucusing Independents gave them supermajority at that time but they still failed the singlepayer vote by 1 Indie and thats why we only got Medicaid Expansion (which republicans have illegally frozen funding for).

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, we fucking did and I'm beyond sick of hearing excuses.

It would take 50 votes to change the senate rules and get rid of the filibuster. Democrats preferred the filibuster to all the shit they let die to preserve it.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That might have made sense in 2013 but we've had less than 50 dems every congress since then so you're just handing the keys to the Republicans. That sort of foresight is exactly why nobody has done it.

A better solution is to just give Dems 60.

What are you afraid of?! You really think Republicans better represent you?

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That might have made sense in 2013 but we’ve had less than 50 dems every congress since then

We had 50 from 2020-2022. We gave them the seats. They squandered their majority. Because that's what Democrats do.

A better solution is to just give Dems 60.

We did that in 2008. They found enough no votes. They always do.

You really think Republicans better represent you?

I think they better represent you.

[–] finitebanjo -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We actually didn't have 50 in 2020-2022. We only had Dem majority with caucusing independents.

[–] Ensign_Crab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Splitting hairs now?

It wasn't the independents that voted with republicans.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You got caught in a blatant lie and so I'm "splitting hairs".

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 3 days ago

Oh christ. We're done. Saying that democrats had a majority when their caucus had a majority isn't a blatant lie. It wasn't the independents that voted with republicans.

It was democrats who voted like you wanted them to.