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The U.S. Supreme Court's recent term ended with a flurry of conservative-leaning decisions that have been met with shock and disapproval, particularly from the left. This conservative trend is seen as a reflection of the 6-3 conservative majority established during Trump's presidency. Noteworthy rulings include siding with a web designer who refused services to same-sex couples, ending affirmative action in colleges, and dismissing President Biden's student loan forgiveness plan.

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[–] MasterObee -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're showing some conflict of interest, but come on. You're trying to prove something here, all you have are a couple articles of going on trips?

He just ruled on roe v wade, show me how he's in the pockets of the rich for that ruling. Or anything, come on, you said it, make your point.

I never said the system is wrong because people disagree with me.

You said the system is broken and it's because you get called a communist by someone online.

I’m just pointing out that these solutions you are giving aren’t anywhere near as effective as you seem to think they are.

So you're sad because vote isn't overriding every one elses?I don't know what you want me to say, to you not getting your way every election.

[–] S_Roman 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re showing some conflict of interest, but come on.

Yup, that's generally what "in the pocket of the rich" means. It means you have a conflict of interest to rule in favor of the rich because they have given you shit. I sincerely do not understand what part of that you're hung up on.

He just ruled on roe v wade, show me how he’s in the pockets of the rich for that ruling

Just because somebody is in the pocket of the rich doesn't mean that every single ruling will have something to do with money. You have an unrealistic expectation here as well.

If you're looking for rulings that blatantly side with the rich, the citizens united ruling is the place to start.

Here is another good place to start: https://time.com/5793956/supreme-court-loves-rich/

Or anything, come on, you said it, make your point.

See the above links.

You said the system is broken and it’s because you get called a communist by someone online.

No I did not. If you're going to spend the time to debate you should at least understand what people have said.

So you’re sad because vote isn’t overriding every one elses?

Nope. Never said that either.

I don’t know what you want me to say, to you not getting your way every election

I want you to acknowledge that there is no such thing as a simple solution for these problems. You keep saying "oh, just do X if Y doesn't work", but that's not the reality of the situation, these problems require significant and complicated change.

[–] MasterObee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, that’s generally what “in the pocket of the rich” means.

Any conflict of interest? LOL you'd be hard pressed to find any politician that hasn't had some COI transactions.

Just because somebody is in the pocket of the rich doesn’t mean that every single ruling will have something to do with money. You have an unrealistic expectation here as well.

That's why I asked you, tell me what case he's ruled on that he got bought off. I'm encouraging you to show me.

Here is another good place to start: https://time.com/5793956/supreme-court-loves-rich/

  1. That's court cases from the 80's. How does that prove your point that our current SC is in the pocket of the rich?

  2. You'd have to do more than show that sometimes the cases go against the 'marginalized' - you have to prove it's bad law. The SC is supposed to rule on if the law supports one side or not - it's not their place to empathize with one party over the other. You want the SC to rule more friendly to you? Get 'better' law makers in office.

No I did not. If you’re going to spend the time to debate you should at least understand what people have said.

You: The systems broken, I can't get what I want!

Me: It's up to your representatives, get involved, get better people in office

You: They call me a communist :(

[–] S_Roman 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m encouraging you to show me.

I think I'm alright. I'm not going to waste my time any further.

You: The systems broken, I can’t get what I want!

Me: It’s up to your representatives, get involved, get better people in office

You: They call me a communist :(

Why say anything if you're just gonna misrepresent what I've said?

[–] MasterObee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I’m alright. I’m not going to waste my time on you any further.

I know, hard to make an argument when you just make wild claims.

Why say anything if you’re just gonna misrepresent what I’ve said?

That's what you said, like 2nd comment of our conversation.

[–] S_Roman 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know, hard to make an argument when you just make wild claims.

No, it's just hard to talk with people who do not do so in good faith.

[–] MasterObee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked you to support your claim that the reason why supreme court cases are being rule dhow they are is because they are in rich folks pockets.

You really couldn't, so I don't see why there would be a point to continue this convo.

[–] S_Roman 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really couldn’t

You can lead a horse to water...

[–] MasterObee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It takes a lot of logical leaps to go from 'someone paid for his vacation' to say 'they're just ruling with whatever rich person is sending them money! I can't point to any specific people....or cases they ruled on, BUT THEY ARE!!"

[–] S_Roman 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't explain something to somebody who doesn't want to listen to the explanation.

[–] MasterObee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't explain anything because you can't prove what you need to about your statement. You made a statement, but you failed to prove any part of it. I've read every single word you've wrote and gone to each of your sources.

Show me how money has altered any of the sitting current justices opinions.

[–] S_Roman 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve read every single word you’ve wrote and gone to each of your sources.

Reading something doesn't mean anything if you don't understand it.

Show me how money has altered any of the sitting current justices opinions.

See above and actually read in good faith.

[–] MasterObee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading something doesn’t mean anything if you don’t understand it.

Hahaha, come back with an actual argument, instead of some loose 'see he went on a paid vacation, therefore he just gets paid to rule court cases for rich people.'

You made the claim, I asked which case you thought that they ruled on based on corruption, and what their flawed legal reasoning was.

You can't back anything up that you've said. If you want to be convincing, you gotta back up your claims.

[–] S_Roman 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you gotta back up your claims.

I did, see above.

[–] MasterObee -2 points 1 year ago

You did not note 1 single case ruling that can be related to corruption nor that the ruling had poor law.

If that's all your back up was, it's not convincing.