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[–] ramenshaman 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I mean, the model 3 and Y would be great cars if it weren't for Elon. Tesla, SpaceX, and the whole world would be much better off without him.

Edit: also I'm not talking about FSD, I think it's bullshit and will continue to be bullshit for the foreseeable future. I like to drive my car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Have you seen the Xiaomi SU7? Cheaper, faster, arguably much better looking....

[–] ramenshaman 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I live in the US and they're not available. Also I'm reluctant to buy anything with cameras and an internet connection from China as long as the CCP is in charge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about buying one. Just comparing the cars themselves. Teslas are falling behind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago

Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Until self-driving tech is good enough that you can safely not have a human behind the wheel it isn't really anything other than a toy.

As soon as you can remove humans from the equation you can have automated trucks, without even the capacity for a human driver, that's where the real future is, not in owned vehicles that will always have, by definition, a driver in them anyway.