this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
241 points (89.5% liked)

politics

19859 readers
4538 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

They could have defended the lives of Palestinians and acknowledged that the genocide was happening.

It was Biden's press secretary and SOS who got up on a podium everyday and assured the press and those "other voters" that Israel wasn't doing anything wrong. They drew that line themselves, not anyone who was protesting the genocide.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It was Biden’s press secretary and SOS who got up on a podium everyday and assured the press and those “other voters” that Israel wasn’t doing anything wrong.

How short is your memory?

Biden expressed disapproval multiple times.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-netanyahu-3591fb5f82b22cf8e5d1060fccaef115

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/17/biden-netanyahu-sinwar-gaza-war

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/13/biden-speaks-with-israels-netanyahu-urges-immediate-ceasefire-in-gaza

Whether intentional or not, you are spreading misinformation. The same kind that got Trump and Musk into the Oval Office. And people are upvoting you. Congrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Biden tells Netanyahu it's time to end Gaza war

This one is kinda funny to me because people interpret trump saying nearly the same words is evidence of his genocidal intent.

But none of those 'statements of disapproval' conveys the severity of their literal fucking war crimes and genocide, which would be a minimum (I would think) to convince a skeptical zionist voter that maybe some intervention is justified. Not to mention that Harris repeatedly refused to commit to withholding lethal aid every time she was asked during her candidacy.

[–] Dkarma -4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

And this is how trump got elected. Have some self awareness and knowledge of game theory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

seems like the game theory applied didn't seem to work very well, maybe it's not our priors that need updating..::

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you criticize regular people about game theory and not the actual people crafting the strategy to win an election?

[–] DarkFuture 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because regular adults should be responsible enough to see through blatant manipulation by blatantly bad actors. And if they can't, that's no one else's fault but their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago

That's not an answer to why you hold regular people to account for their actions but not the politicians and strategists actually running the campaign.

Also it wasn't "manipulation". The genocide actually happened.

[–] DarkFuture 0 points 1 hour ago

He's literally spreading misinformation and I posted links to prove it.

And he's being upvoted and you're being downvoted. Which makes your comment even more poignant. Fucking internet man. Humans simply weren't ready for it.