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It’s crazy how easy trump and his buddy netanyahu played you guys in a way that it benefited him. The American left completely splintered into subgroups that all hated each other and nobody was good enough to be an ally. If you were slightly right or even left of their firm views, your help wasn’t wanted. Just a bunch of left leaning voters slinging shit at each other and NOT voting. Meanwhile the right was unified and laughing at you guys, way to go. You shot yourself in the foot and call it a win cause you got blood on the democrats.
The same democrats you are now demanding should save you from all this shit you guys enabled.
Sincerely, a Canadian.
I was still seeing this play out on Bluesky as of a few days ago. It got too depressing to watch so I noped out of my account.
Why are you blaming the people for not supporting genocide? Shouldnt the focus be on the supposed progressive party that did everything to enable the fascist party winning, because they refused to stop the genocide, acknowledge the economic hardship of working class people and all the other things a progressive party should do?
The US has a fascist and a far right party. The far right party is enabling the fascist party and they are still doing it right now with voting more and more of Trumps people into elected government positions.
And if there had been more pressure on the Democrats prior to the election, they might had been forced to abandon the genocide and some of their oligarch donors. Trump couldn't have played this, if the DNC wasn't supporting his game at every step of the way.
First they kept lying straight about how Biden was totally fit for office, as everyone could see him blitzed out of his mind. Then they put Harris who ran on "vibes", downplayed the economic hardship for working class people and denied any sincere discussion with people opposing the genocide. Finally they brought on the war criminal and mass murderer Cheney to really drill home the fact, that the party has no ethics and only cares about money and power. Just that they like to use soft power on their own citizens, rather than hard power. And as good joke to the end Biden talked about oligarchs but claimed there to be good billionaires vs. the bad billionaires.
Stop blaming the people. Blame and fight the oligarchy that is represented in all of the political elites and their billionaire lords.
You got played, plain and simple. Trumps friend starts a war, knowing you idiots would pull the “both sides” crap and let trump win. Great job with your anti genocide stance that has now guaranteed the destruction of Gaza.
My take is that you Americans just can’t help this entitlement you have that the entire planet belongs to you. Neither of your political parties supported your side, so your solution was to support the far worse fascist? Maybe don’t make it an election issue if neither side is on yours. Maybe don’t make another county’s wars your country’s election issues.
And who decided to deliver all the weapons to Israel between Oct. 2023 and Jan. 2025?
Biden sent over 17,000,000,000 $ worth of bombs to Israel. And that is just the material, not counting the US running surveillance and target acquisitions, the diplomatic cover etc.
If that is not enough to convince you that Biden wanted this genocide as much as Trump, then how much more would the US have had to send under Biden? Would you have changed your mind at 20,000,000,000 ? 50,000,000,000 ?
During Bidens presidency Israel murdered at least 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza, more realistically a 100,000-300,000 that cannot be accounted for anymore because Israel annihilated the health system in Gaza.
If that does not convince you, how many more Palestinians would have had to be murdered under Biden, for you to consider that Biden wanted this genocide as much as Trump?
90% of buildings in Gaza are destroyed or seriously damaged. All hospitals are either destroyed or seriously damaged. The entire water and waste-water infrastructure got systematically destroyed, most schools got destroyed, all universities got destroyed. Again all of this happened during Bidens presidency, with the full support from the US.
If that does not convince you, how much more of Gaza would have needed to be destroyed, for you to consider that Biden wanted to destroy Gaza? 110% 140%? There is only 100% that can be destroyed and Israel already managed to destroy more than 90% of all civilian infrastructure, during Bidens term.
Trump is picking off where Biden left things. But the idea that Biden somehow didnt create what Trump is working off now, cannot be based on what actually happened since October 2023 with the full support of Bidens administration.
Sure sure keep blaming Biden, just like Netanyahu wanted you to. Enjoy Trump’s approach to Palestine
As it stands currently there is much more aid getting into Gaza and much less Palestinians are murdered than throughout all of Bidens presidency since Oct. 8 2023 until a few days before he left office.
The idea that things would be better for Palestinians under the current DNC elites and who they put into power has no empirical basis.
If you didn't call for fighting against the Biden administration over its support for the genocide, but now call for fighting against the Trump administration over it, your reasons are not related to the genocide. You cannot accept the genocide by one administration and reject the genocide by another administration. In this case you simply do not consider the genocide an important issue.
And this is crucial to understand. In regards to the genocide in Gaza, but more generally to the US being a murderous and racist empire, the Republicans and Democrats are both pillars of maintaining this status quo. And we see again right now, that many Democrats are eager to support the Trump administration now, instead of fighting it. Because they want to maintain the empire for the oligarchs. They just fight over the flavor of oligarchy.
So the solution will not come from helping the current DNC elites maintain power. It can only come from removing all current political elites and the oligarchs who they represent.
The same ceasefire that was on the table since April and was sabotaged by Israel repeatedly with no consequences from the Biden administration. And before that there were other ceasefire initiatives, that the Biden administration did not push Israel for. Also Biden himself praised how his team worked together closely with Trumps team in making the current ceasefire (that gets violated by Israel regularly) happen.
Finally Biden and Blinken kept repeatedly lying about Hamas not wanting a ceasefire, when it was Israel sabotaging the ceasefire negotiations, while Hamas kept saying they agreed to the proposal.
You simply cannot reject all the empirical evidence and flee into some idea of the actions of Biden to be somehow better, leave alone justifiable. More than 50,000, realistically more than 100,000 murdered Palestinians and the destruction of almost all of Gaza prove the contrary.
Trump now claiming that Palestinians would need to leave Gaza, because it became unlivable, screams to ask who made it unlivable. And there is more than 17,000,000,000 $ worth of bombs, that Biden delivered to Israel to make this destruction happen, as an answer to that.
Trump is speaking the quiet parts out loud. But Biden was steadfast in making it happen. And he and Harris kept emphasizing throughout the election campaigning, that they will stand by Israel no matter what. The reality is that both the DNC and the Reps want this genocide. They want to expand the US empire for their oligarchs. They will absolutely murder everyone who stands in the way of the empire, unless they are stopped from it.
And this is not a new story. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan... Palestine is just another item on the list of bipartisan murder and destruction.
So since the both sides made it inevitable you really just want it over with faster then, by helping to choose the person who will make sure it's accomplished faster and with less compassion? You went with the one more likely to start doing the same thing on US soil? This is the choice you endorse?
Remove both sides from power, and stop thinking in the box of "we are given the choice of two evils and choose the lesser one." No! Break the box and remove the people from power who only offer evils as choice.
If people didn't fall over backwards to defend the Democrats and pushed for a third party instead, if there had been more protests, if there had been direct actions against arms manufacturer and other complicit companies, the US might had reevaluated its support for the genocide. And these things still need to be done. The solution does not come from either the Republicans or Democrats, who both supported and still support the genocide of Palestinians, like they both supported the mass slaughter of Iraqis and Afghanis, like they both supported the mass slaughter of Vietnamese, like they both supported the genocide of native Americans...
That's an awesome ideal that has never been more further away due to the inaction of team pro-palestine! We're now in a real danger of all of those very necessary protests becoming criminalized instead! Everything you say you want is now impossible for a generation because the way you tried to get them was so lazy!
Yeah. Clearly all the people that tried doing something, that got beaten up a protests, that got assaulted by extremists in their campus camps... Yeah those people are at fault. Not at fault are of course the people who did nothing except confirming to the people in power that they are fine with the genocide.
Oh god no, not all of them, just the ones who didn't vote, and those are the ones responsible for this new fresh hell the Palestinians go through as the ceasefire turns into concentration camps and involuntary deportation to Egypt and Jordan.
If you really think Kamela would be saying things like 'why don't we just evict all the Palestinians from Gaza' right now then you're not interfacing with the same reality that the rest of us are.
A now Trump is sending our children to die in a foreign land so he can enrich himself further. Slow clap to all the “winners.”
This is the most accurate assessment of the whole situation I've seen.
Supporting a two state solution is nowadays branded as colonialist fascism.
Not only the right became more extreme, the left has radicalized to an extreme level as well.
Supporting a two state solution is nowadays branded as colonialist fascism.
Not only the right became more extreme, the left has radicalized to an extreme level as well.