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Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project:

https://lwn.net/ml/all/[email protected]/

The good news is this doesn't affect drm/asahi, our GPU driver. The bad news is it does affect all the other drivers we're (re)writing in Rust, two so far with a third one coming.

Another choice quote, calling R4L "cancer": https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/

Personally, I would consider this grounds for removal of Christoph from the Linux project on Code of Conduct violation grounds, but sadly I doubt much will happen other than draining a lot of people's energy and will to continue the project until Linus says "fuck you" or something.

As for how to move forward, if I were one of the Rust maintainers, I would just merge the patch (which does not touch code formally maintained by the dissenter). Either Linus takes the pull, and whatever Christoph says is irrelevant, or he doesn't, and R4L dies. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

Edit: Sent in my 2 cents: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/[email protected]/T/#m1944b6d485070970e359bbc7baa71b04c86a30af

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[–] semperverus 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like Paolo served you a slice of humble pie there at the end.

Please keep this kind of FUD elsewhere, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah...until Christoph replied and confirmed what Hector was saying was true and not FUD. He didn't mince words, he said he did not want Rust in Linux whatsoever, only for new codebases, not existing ones like Linux.

[–] semperverus 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Christoph is an engineer and has been for a long time. There are probably considerations he is making that you either cannot or are refusing to fathom. He's clearly not against rust in general, just in mixing languages in one codebase.

To be clear though, I personally don't have a horse in this race, I am speaking somewhat as an outside observer, so i gain nothing from you getting your way or Christoph his.

Stop and think without attributing malice to why someone in his position would make the statements and decisions he's making. He's not an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We should be looking at his given reasons, not making assumptions based on some ineffable set of considerations that he might have.

Christof's given reason of complexity is sensible, it's also one already considered when allowing R4L in the first place; adding rust language support has been deemed worth the additional complexity.

[–] semperverus 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Either Linus or Greg K-H, likely after feedback from many others.