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The cost of aluminum for consumers in Europe buying on the physical market has dropped due to expectations that Canadian shipments under U.S. tariffs from Tuesday will be diverted, physical market traders said.

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The U.S. is a major importer of aluminum used widely in the transport, packaging and construction industries, shipping in 5.46 million metric tons of aluminum products in 2023, according the U.S. Commerce Department.

According to the Commerce Department, Canada accounted for 3.08 million tons or 56 per centof aluminum product imports to the United States for domestic consumption in 2023, the latest full year data available.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

That is the appropriate answer to rapist-donald and his friends. We literally produce half of their aluminum (edit: imported aluminium, 1/4 overall). USA will face the biggest construction crisis they ever faced. We cannot trust this under-educated country ever again, it's time to build permanent partnership with the rest of the world and bring down the US for good, they're to dangerous for the survival of the specie.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

I don't expect forgiveness, but I'd like you to know I'm sorry for the way my country is acting

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Half of their imported aluminum, not half of the total. It's an important distinction.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

right, american production of aluminum metal is 1/4 of canadian production. it also critically depends on cheap elecrticity, canadians have nuclear powerplants and hydro, and guess what other funny thing canadians can do

e: i can't read

it breaks down like this: american production of aluminum 750k tons, canadian 3000k tons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_aluminium_production), 95% of canadian aluminum exports go to usa (https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/raw-aluminium/reporter/can#trade-flow), and comparing export value, price per ton and manufacture, it looks like most of manufacture goes to export, let's say 90%, of which 95% goes to usa, that is somewhere around 2560k tons. this is 56% of imports, so the rest is about 2010k tons. so out of 5320k tons total, canadians can just take away almost half

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the numbers, makes a clearer portrait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

guess what other funny things Canadians can do 😏

Oh, what's this gonna be? Go out for a rip?

not read :c

Oh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i misinterpreted certain statistics first time around, which suggested that potential canadian impact on available primary aluminum in us would be lower. canadians also export lots of oil and gas south, and there's plenty of gas powerplants in us

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh for sure, i just thought this little exchange within your comment was hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

nah you got it right first time around, it's closer to half overall

[–] AA5B -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a US-ian, I don’t know whether to upvote or downvote. The concern is real and response appropriate, but then you go off into the weeds, and …… take a breath. Politics bounces back and forth but has usually been somewhat sane. It might be again

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Your country is threatening to annex mine...You want us to wait and hope your dictator becomes reasonable?

[–] AA5B -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh no, I’m sure he will never become reasonable. It’s going to be a tumultuous and scary four years.

As I was saying, the response seems appropriate. However despite all our fears, there’s no reason to expect it to last more than four years. There’s every chance things will return to sanity then. In the meantime, the response seems to be resistance, making clear the consequences, then get on the phone and make some concession that you would have anyway, if the orange idiot would use his words. No tariffs, no big deal ion your part, his big ego gets to claim a win. We can’t lose hope for the future

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

there’s no reason to expect it to last more than four years

I admire your optimism but I think it's naïve...
He explicitly said, on multiple occasion, that he would "fix" the electoral system. He already attacked your Capitol, remember? Republican won't accept to lose another election, they will make sure it doesn't happened. Just wait a couple of months, shouldn't be long before you see their plan.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean your country IS under educated and it does need to lose some of its dominance imo. The US and its market influence is the main driving force behind all the bad IP law and privacy disasters of the past few decades. Countries need to start ignoring the US more when making decisions.