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[–] donuts 11 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Can someone explain how these tarrifs are simultaneously not working, but also foreign leaders are folding?

Signed, a confused European

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

They’re only “folding” because they’re essentially being asked to do nothing or getting agreements they’ve wanted for ages, none of which required a trade war. In the article Mexico supposedly is getting help with weapons trafficked from the US to Mexico, something they’ve wanted for a while and the only thing they agreed to was to put some troops near the border. There’s no substantive mention of any work done towards the “trade deficit” Trump was yelling about.

So yeah it “worked” but only in areas we could have achieved with a friendly phone call without all the bullshit trump is doing. Anyone with enough of a brain to understand you can do those things without baseless threats could’ve done what Trump did faster and with less blowback.

[–] donuts 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the only thing they agreed to was to put some troops near the border.

10k is a bit more than "some", imo. But it still means that Mexico caved to demands, no? Why wouldn't they do it before if all it took was a phone call?

Sidenote, I'm asking these questions because I truly don't understand. I'm not trying to start anything here, except maybe some educational comments

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Fair point on the troops.

In regards to why the wouldn't do this before, they wouldn't do it before because it won't do shit to be frank. They have caved to the US via phone call, notably during Biden's administration in order to lighten the number of migrants reaching the border.

Trump's boots on the border crap looks good, but it won't solve the why people are trying to get in. To do that would require undoing decades of CIA meddling in Latin America, and frankly money to help fix the systemic issues that caused. I'll leave 6 quick links below on that history.

AP News on Venezuela

Time Magazine article on Latin American interventions

Wikipedia article on Latin American Interventions

Geopolitical Monitor on CIA intervention specifically

TRT World

Yale Review

[–] SoftestSapphic 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No amount of troops on the border will stop illegal immigration.

Only accessible legal pathways to immigration do that.

[–] PP_BOY_ -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Please try testing your hypothesis at the Korean DMZ

[–] SoftestSapphic 1 points 5 hours ago

People still cross every year.

Do you not read the news?

Also the US border is 10 times the length of the SK NK boder and totally devoid of fencing or obstructions for 80% or more.

Don't be racist

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