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Article: https://proton.me/blog/deepseek

Calls it "Deepsneak", failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers - unlike most of the competing SOTA AIs.

I can't speak for Proton, but the last couple weeks are showing some very clear biases coming out.

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[–] cley_faye 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, some people like proton. Or liked, if this keeps going. When you build a business on trust and you start flailing like a headless chicken, people gets wary.

[–] Evotech 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

A blog post telling people to be wary of a Chinese app running an LLM people know very little about is flailing?

[–] Kbobabob 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Can't it be run standalone without network?

They also published the weights so we know more about it than some of the others

[–] Evotech 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This focuses mostly on the app though, which is #1 on the app stores atm

We know it's censored to comply with Chinese authorities, just not how much. It's probably trained on some fairly heavy propaganda.

[–] FuzzyDog 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

You don't think ChatGPT reflects western propaganda?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure it might but the thing is it may still acknowledge that there are different opinions on some topics. Does reflect how whilst governments may have a narrative, people can say what they think. In China, that's a different story...

[–] Evotech 2 points 3 hours ago

Probably, but that's not the new thing

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

When the CEO praises Trump, says China bad because China while hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship, that’s hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship

This is the second sentence in the article:

AI chat apps like ChatGPT collect user data, filter responses, and make content moderation decisions that are not always transparent.

The entire rest of the article is about how they actually do not have the same kind of censorship. You should try reading the article before commenting on it.

But DeepSeek...does all that and more.

[–] Evotech 1 points 3 hours ago

He did not praise trump though

[–] MITM0 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

DeepSeek is opensource (unlike ClosedAI)

[–] Kbobabob 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I eee this everywhere. They published the weights. That doesn't make it open source

[–] MITM0 1 points 8 hours ago

Ok correction noted, It still makes DeepSeek look better