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[–] UsernameHere 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If the strategy of compromising with the right, appealing to moderate voters, and sucking up to corporate donors is so effective, why did it fail miserably at stopping the fall to fascism?

Because China/Russia/Iran/North Korea and the billionaire class wanted Trump to win and used their propaganda machines to influence the elections. Not to mention billionaires doing underhanded stuff like buying votes. All while progressives fed the propaganda machine with their constant criticism.

Failing miserably would describe progressives’ refusal to work with other ideologies and thus losing elections consistently.

Are you of the same mind as the Democratic leadership, that Kamala Harris ran a perfect campaign?

There is no such thing as a perfect campaign.

You're making the same mistake that right-wingers make, blaming the powerless for the actions of the powerful.

I’m blaming the people that tipped the scales and got Trump elected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I’m blaming the people that tipped the scales and got Trump elected.

You acknowledge the influence of billionaires and foreign governments on our political process, yet you still place the blame on progressives for criticizing Democrats for refusing to challenge those billionaires. Why?

The progressives are the Democrats' true base, so if Democrats are unpopular with their base and are receiving criticism from them, it's on the Democrats to respond to that criticism and appeal to their base. If you absolutely must play the blame game, place the blame on those who had the power to do better and didn't. You can be frustrated about the way people vote all you want, but it isn't going to change their minds. Only the Democrats had that power, and they refused to do what needed to be done.

[–] UsernameHere 1 points 39 minutes ago

You acknowledge the influence of billionaires and foreign governments on our political process, yet you still place the blame on progressives for criticizing Democrats for refusing to challenge those billionaires. Why?

Because most of the influence that billionaires have is from Citizen United and no amount of criticizing democrats will change that.

It has the opposite effect. All that criticism is just ammo for their other method of influence: propaganda.

Every criticism is amplified by swarms of fake accounts on social media and forums like this. Used to sow apathy in democratic voters.

So that criticism makes it harder for democrats to get elected, which makes the GOP stronger, which entrenches more policies like Citizens United. Taking us all several steps backwards.