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That's not an answer- who do you trust on this subject? Or is everyone lying? Because it's either true or it isn't.
I don't trust anyone, surely everyone is lying. Both sides have a very strong interest on propagating opposite points of view. Framing Russia as the saviours of the Russian population in Crimea and Donetsk against Ukronazis is very beneficial to Russia, framing Russia as a war criminal country kidnapping children is very beneficial to NATO.
Remember Nayirah's testimony? Remember the WMDs in Iraq?
I wonder if you would have felt that way about reports of the Holocaust in the 1940s... you can't trust any of that propaganda. Everyone is lying. Maybe there is no genocide in Nazi Germany.
Also, again, if everyone is lying, they both are kidnapping children and they are not kidnapping children. Are these Schrödinger's Children?
The Holocaust wasn't well known and widely acknowledged in the Allies at the time of WW2 for some years, it's a sad consequence of the information war between Nazis and the Allies. Soviet soldiers report being surprised and disgusted when liberating extermination and concentration camps from the Nazis.
I was talking about what you would have believed. But I guess the answer is you would have denied it was happening.
And you have not explained how, if both sides are lying about it, the children can be in a kidnapped/not kidnapped superposition.
I'm not denying anything, I'm asking to be careful with such accusations and with the references used
Yet again, you said that both Russia and Ukraine were lying about the children. You still have not explained how they can be kidnapped and not kidnapped at the same time.
OK dude if you wanna stay in the western echo chamber just talk openly about it
Accusations are not explanations.