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[–] Cenzorrll 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are not defending a position, all you're doing is playing an adult version of the toddler "why" game. If you want a debate or to have discussion you need to add something to it. State your position and defend it.

If the end result was exactly the same and you had a choice between treating them like normal people and sending them on commercial aircraft with prior notice, or handcuffing them and transporting them on military aircraft with no notice, which would you say is the best way to deport them?

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you want a debate or to have discussion you need to add something to it. State your position and defend it.

i am repeating myself but the view i'm illustrating is essentially this:

  • it is harmful in multiple ways for a soverign state to appear to not have control of its border

  • entering a country illegally is a serious crime

  • where there is a popular perception of excessive lenience, it is acceptable to show criminals in handcuffs which is not in itself particularly unusual

  • using a miliiary airplane is grandstanding, yes. but it also illustrates that these people were not citizens when they broke american law and it is ok for a country to draw a firm line on things like this particuarly if they want it to stop

which would you say is the best way to deport them?

you can see elsewhere in this thread that i agreed with this point and i thought it was a good counter argument. even IF if were appropriate to handcuff criminals and deport them using non-civilian means, it's ultimately an uneconomical use of money. (though one could argue that there is value in publicising that this is a crime against the state, which it is, and is being treated as such)