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President Donald Trump says he’d like to see Arab nations increase the number of Palestinian refugees they are accepting from the Gaza Strip — potentially moving out enough of the population to “clean out” the area to create a virtual clean slate.

“Something has to happen,” Trump said. “But it’s literally a demolition site right now. Almost everything’s demolished, and people are dying there.” He added: “So, I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations, and build housing in a different location, where they can maybe live in peace for a change.”

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[–] pdxfed 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What could possibly go wrong with the forced insertion of a group of people into a concentrated geographic region?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Just stick them in Kurdistan. Land without a people for a people without a land ... I think I've seen this one before ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Jordan is already majority Palestinian. It even used to be part of the British Mandate for Palestine. Culture and language in Jordan are very close to Palestine in general.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ignoring the genocidal premise of forcibly moving Palestinians off their land after Israel just razed their houses, Jordan is a tiny country of 10million people who have their own cultural identity beyond being Arab or close to Palestine.

They are already home to 3 million refugees, most of whom are Palestinian, and 1 million are Iraqis. To ask them to take on anyone else is beyond a joke. Especially when Israel and the US have spent decades finding new ways to destabilise its neighbours and make them flee into its borders. Jordan is also not a rich country. Wealthier countries need to step up, and that should include the US given its culpability in this genocide. But the US has just elected a man-baby who will bemoan its international responsibilities for the next 4 years so there's no chance of that happening.

[–] clutchtwopointzero 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I understand where you coming from but that view seems half informed. The whole cultural identity argument was also pushed by Arafat as a way to force Palestinians to stay in Gaza instead of assimilating into Israeli society or leaving to Egypt, Syria, or Jordan

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whether or not it was emphasised by him, Yasser Arafat did not invent Palestinian culture. He did not invent eating musakhan, singing ataaba songs at weddings or any of the children's games that Palestinian children play.

To believe that Palestinians have no distinct identity, you would have to ignore the fact that Palestinians are a distinct group within the neighbouring countries that they live in. Families who have lived for 2-3 generations in places like Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon continue to view themselves as Palestinian, and continue to maintain cultural traditions particular to the place they were expelled from.

[–] clutchtwopointzero 1 points 1 day ago

Fair argument. My point, however, is that many, many Palestinians wanted out to avoid suffering but the PLA and then Hezbollah made it purposefully difficult for them to leave so that those political leaders would have people forcibly kept there to help bolster their personal political agendas. Being expelled is not right but if people want out to avoid suffering, they should be allowed to go

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most of the millions of Palestinian refugees living in Jordan were born in Jordan. They are descendants of refugees from 1948 and 1967. They live in regular housing. The so called Palestinian refugee camps ins Jordan look and operate like normal towns.

To ask them to take on anyone else is beyond a joke

Maybe the people of Gaza should be asked what they want. I’m sure some would prefer living in Jordan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The so called Palestinian refugee camps ins Jordan look and operate like normal towns.

Having been there and seen them, no they are not. In addition, Palestinians in Jordan do not have the same rights as Jordanians.

I’m sure some would prefer living in Jordan.

You have just breezed past the point that Jordan has one of the highest percentages of refugees in the world, they are not a rich country, and the fact that some colonialists want to dump more on them is a crime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your post history shows that you're an unrepentant genocide denier, so don't try to pretend that you care what the people of Gaza want. Especially not when your original comment boils down to 'they're all Arabs, they should live with the other Arabs.' Which is a much loved, but entirely bullshit Zionist argument that has been used to dispossess the Palestinians for decades.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would prefer nobody died or have to leave their home in this region.

Arabs are pretty different. I was talking about Jordan specifically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh ok never mind then, genocide back on (and yes, this is still genocide).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

Refugees leaving a warzone is genocide?