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Oh thats true. Each country in europe has their own spin off far right. Also far right parties in europe already have their sponsors and they usualy have suspiciously russian accents. And its certainly better to keep quiet about that for them ( before russia invasion some could even get away with that in the western countries somehow , beacuse for some inexplicable reason pepole had suprisingly high opinion of russia, a f* dictatorship in europe. And its even worse with hungary, of all the countries that could romance with russia why tf hungary . That i just dont understand. In poland if anyone even looked favorably towards russia he would almoast be treated as a traitor , and hungary had similar experience with the soviets so why ).
Actually you know. I think i welcome the competition for the far right . Perhaps musk or other crazy bilionares can outbid some rusian oligarchs. At worst nothing changes. At best far right will become tad more pro american. And americans are still our allies at the end of the day for better or worse.
Actually you post really made me think in a direction I didn't expect.
You see, in countries with systems other than Proportional Vote - so, countries with electoral circles - the Left generaly has had less political power than their share of the vote because it gets divided (as the joke goes, "The biggest enemy of the Left is the Left") and in systems with electoral circles that means fewer elected representatives per vote.
The exact same problem will apply to the Far-Right if they get divided. In fact, you can see it already in the last election in the UK, where the Far-Right Tories (who used to be just Conservative Right and moved to full-blown populist Far-Right during the Leave Referendum) have lost the elections because an even more Far-Right party called Reform UK appeared and divided their vote, which their First Past The Post electoral system (so, electoral circles with a single representative per electoral circle) transformed into a big loss for the Tories in terms of elected members of Parliament as it made them not come first anymore - and thus not get the member of parliament for that circle - in many such electoral circles in which they usually came first.
All this to say that a divided Far Right would probably be the best possible thing for Europe, at least in most countries (as only a few have electoral system using proportional vote), though paradoxically that would not impact the total representation of the Far Right in the EU Parliament because that one uses Proportional Vote.