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[–] nebulaone -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Oh man I am going to get burned at the stakes for this comment.

I have ADHD, depression and a tendency for addiction, all diagnosed by a medical professional and not just because I feel like it. I am fine with being called mentally ill.

Is a neurodivergence that usually stops you from reproducing naturally and gender dysphoria a mental illness? Without any disrespect I would say yes and that's fine. In my opinion it even validates hormone treatments and your insurance should pay for it. Do whatever makes you feel good about yourself.

I find it quite disrespectful to others that they have such a problem with that label.

Edit: Just to be clear, this is NOT about hate comments, or trying to justify them in any way.

[–] surewhynotlem 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So you can accept that they feel like they were born in the wrong body, but you can't accept that they don't want to be called mentally ill, on top of all the laws against their existence?

That seems like a weird inconsistency.

[–] nebulaone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You didn't even try to understand what I am trying to say. I am on your side on this. If they dont want to be called that, I am not going to do that. I still think it is disrespectful.

[–] surewhynotlem 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but you ~~can't accept~~ think it's disrespectful that they don't want to be called mentally ill, **on top of all the laws against their existence? **

That seems like a weird inconsistency.

[–] nebulaone -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

Source: Wikipedia

[–] surewhynotlem 5 points 1 week ago

Ok, you're not getting me. I'll try a different way.

Is appendicitis a mental illness? The pain from it causes suffering and prevents normal thought and dealing with society.

No, of course not. We could classify that as an illness of the body because the brain is fine as soon as the body is fixed.

You're looking at trans people, where the brain and body don't match, and saying it's a brain issue. This is your bias, not for any good reason. It's just as easily classed as a body issue which goes away once the body is fixed. Their brains are just fine.

Our ADHD is forever, and there's no body fixing that would get us to better work within society's structure. That's why that's a mental illness.

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