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I think too many of them felt complacent in the idea that Trump couldn't win..
Do you think it has nothing to do with perpetually online kids screaming the word "genocide" all over the internet like they know what they're talking about?
It is a fucking genocide. I’m Jewish. Never forget means never forget. Apparently to liberals it means forget when convenient because my team needs to win the imperialist capitalist Olympics!
No that's probably a lot to do with it.
Given all the "We're staying home because Kamala's bad for Palestine.... Wait Trump won? But he's WORSE for Palestine, how could this happen!?!?!"
Yeah...
Edit: Well this aged like milk since Trump apparently just saved Palestine via getting Israel to ceasefire
Meanwhile a ceasefire is in the works to start when trump gets in office. Meaning it could of been done the entire biden admin but wasn’t. More liberal cope.
Yeah I.... don't know what's going on here, between this and Trump actively telling his party he doesn't give a shit what transpeople do I'm wondering if he's somehow... I dunno I don't wanna say good for the country, but... something outside of my expectaiton has happened
I’m not surprised. Democrats aren’t the only ones capable of a bait and switch. Except the christofascists are bloodthirsty and would turn on him in a heartbeat - remember how they booed him over the covid vaccine?
Edit - also there’s no saying that just because israel “agrees” to a ceasefire means they’ll actually follow through with it. For all we know it’s a wink and a nod.
"If only someone had warned us..."
Maybe it isn't the fault of kids who oppose genocide... But it has to do with genocide joe and kamalacaust supporting a genocide?
Those kids are idiots who don't understand how the world works. At best. At worst they're know what they're doing and lying for money.
The choice wasn't genocide or rainbows. The choice was allowing the other country to do genocide or actively participating in the worst version of it. That was painfully, totally obvious to everyone with half a brain. Those people in question helped promoting the second choice that is worse for everyone but couple of rich dudes. They are absolutely to blame for what they did. They weren't the only party to blame, but they absolutely were part of it.
Biden was already doing the worst. The bar is in hell and can’t go much lower.
Boy, you really shoehorned that in.
Are you disputing that there's a genocide against Palestinians? Are you disputing the Biden administration's singular role in facilitating that genocide? Do you disagree that genocide is the worst crime mankind is capable of, short of perhaps total nuclear annihilation of all life? I'm not a "single issue" voter, but boy, if I had to pick one issue, it'd be fucking genocide. I honestly don't know how you people live with yourselves.
I am describing the situation where people thought that they are chosing between a genocide and no genocide, where in reality it was absolutely painfully obvious that they were choosing between a lot of good with a little genocide and everything being worse and genocide being the worst of the worse.
And now every thing that Trump will do worse than Kamala ever was able to do is in part those people's fault.
Because, and it's weird that I need to repeat this so often, when you're making a choice you need to chose of available options and can't wish for a secret non-existent option. That never worked and that didn't work this time either.
I wish I didn't know how you people live with yourselves, but I unfortunately know.
Can you literally just answer the questions I asked, instead of trying to reframe everything from your perspective?
In summary they’re ok with genocide so long as their preferred candidate wins. Typical liberal.
If you think the people who don't like seeing American bombs ripping children apart day in and day out were enough to swing the vote, don't you think the democrats should have listened to us?
I bet you feel better now, when more bombs will bomb more children and you helped this happen.
I did not make genocide unpopular. I did not make ending covid protections, doing fuckall about roe or the SCOTUS, failing to cancel student debt, failing to reschedule cannabis, quadrupling the tariff on chinese solar panels, EVs, and batteries all decrease turnout.
You had the choice between bad and worse. not an appealing choice. but everyone knew those who liked the orange monkey would go vote. so not voting, in protest against bad is a vote for worse.
so yes, the democrats in usa have lost the connection to their base. however, this doesn't give anyone able to vote, the right to blame them for an elected baboon.
"You were handed a choice by the same system committing genocide, it's on you to unquestioningly accept that choice and not seek any alternative, thereby guaranteeing all manner of crimes against humanity will continue indefinitely. I think this because I'm incapable of understanding that both parties supporting genocide completely discredits any theory about their political independence."
You seeked an alternative, turns out the alternative is Trump. Do you feel good about what you have found? Are you capable of admitting to yourself that seeking of alternative would be better if there was a little less unhinged fascism?
This is what some people call "slave talk". The oppressed chiding each other for the actions of the oppressors, whether or not they're even responsible (in this case, they categorically are not). You're doing their work for them, for free.