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If you think the people who don't like seeing American bombs ripping children apart day in and day out were enough to swing the vote, don't you think the democrats should have listened to us?
You had the choice between bad and worse. not an appealing choice. but everyone knew those who liked the orange monkey would go vote. so not voting, in protest against bad is a vote for worse.
so yes, the democrats in usa have lost the connection to their base. however, this doesn't give anyone able to vote, the right to blame them for an elected baboon.
"You were handed a choice by the same system committing genocide, it's on you to unquestioningly accept that choice and not seek any alternative, thereby guaranteeing all manner of crimes against humanity will continue indefinitely. I think this because I'm incapable of understanding that both parties supporting genocide completely discredits any theory about their political independence."
You seeked an alternative, turns out the alternative is Trump. Do you feel good about what you have found? Are you capable of admitting to yourself that seeking of alternative would be better if there was a little less unhinged fascism?
This is what some people call "slave talk". The oppressed chiding each other for the actions of the oppressors, whether or not they're even responsible (in this case, they categorically are not). You're doing their work for them, for free.
And instead you allow the worst outcome and then what? Whine on social media, while people are dying as a result of your inaction? Wait for thr glorious revolution to appear out of nowhere that will bring you bag of happiness? Hope a bunch of people die and suffer so the communist emerges?
Yes, that is exactly the kind of thing the more brainwashed slaves said when the masters instituted collective punishment. Thank you for the great example.
You might think you are doing big heroic revolution by being obtuse about the situation you're in, but you actually, demonstrably making it easier for the powers that be to take advantage of you. You are in the system, you either engage with it, or it grinds you down into a fine paste. Childish proclamations is not how you change or escape it, it is how you tell it that you're up for grabs.
I reject their system. You play by their rules, they control you. That simple. A society of people rejecting their system ends their system, a society of people playing by their rules is dominated. You may think you're being pragmatic, but you're being manipulated.
You reject jack shit, my man. You were given an option to slightly affect whatever is rulling you, and you threw it away. You were never given any other options. Now it doesn't matter what you write anonymously on the internet, you will live in the same world as anyone else and obey the same laws and rules, they will just be chosen by other people because you decided to play edgy teenager and brood in the shadows.
Evil people who do evil shit couldn't ask for better ally than a moody teenager playing against his own interests.
I'm not going to sit here repeating myself. If you had any interest in justice or truth you would speak less and listen to people who know better. Despicable.
Am I talking to a robot? You sound like a robot, was I wasting my time talking to a bot this whole time?
The mod here already banned me once, otherwise I'd let you know exactly what I think of that. How about you focus on what's being said to you instead of coming up with bullshit like that about who you're talking to.
That's the thing, nothing is being said to me. You don't have points, you have empty platitudes.
I bet you feel better now, when more bombs will bomb more children and you helped this happen.
I did not make genocide unpopular. I did not make ending covid protections, doing fuckall about roe or the SCOTUS, failing to cancel student debt, failing to reschedule cannabis, quadrupling the tariff on chinese solar panels, EVs, and batteries all decrease turnout.
So when presented with a choice between an evil and something that wasn't all that effective at combating this evil, you decided to chose evil. That one effective evil that was so effective at bringing evil.
And now you are trying to convince yourself that it wasn't your fault
You are blaming someone who had absolutely no power to affect the outcome of the election, while absolving the dems, who decided to do all those policies, knowing they would decrease turnout.
Voters are tbe only people who has power to affect tbe outcome of election, if democracy is happening anyway. Moreover they have an obligation as citizens and part of communities to find the best possible outcome of an election and put their voice towards that. A political party has zero obligations other than to fulfil whatever internal policy they have, and it's an entity that voters shape by voting and political activistm in general.
When voters vote for the worst outcome for them, it's their doing and their fault, and nobody else is to blame.
You have learned nothing.
Quppy oneliners aren't substitutes for engagement. I learned nothing from you because you're saying nothing
I explained to you why the democrats lose elections. Instead you cover your ears and go "no it's the voters fault that unpopular policy decreases turnout". In every future election, when democrats try to be republican-lite, and the base is telling them "this is massively unpopular", you will continue to try to silence the left and help the democrats maintain the delusion they can win by being republicans.
The fuck you didn't. You listed a list of grievances you hold, showed that you know jack shit about how the government works or what was or wasn't done over years and why, and huffily proclamed, without zero evidence backing you up, that you alone hold the knowledge of what american people want and declared yourself an ambassador of the left.
Yes, I am the only one who holds the secret knowledge that... checks notes democratic voters don't like republican policies.
I don't need to cite anything because this is so painfully obvious.
Democratic voters demonstrably want something lukewarm liberal-centre. We know that because of the primaries numbers as a whole, and a bunch of smaller elections.
Loud people on social media want all sorts of things but they remain on social media, the fact that is demonstrated time and time again.
And the fact that this is not obvious to everyone is the real pain here. The lain we all will be feeling for the next unknown number of years.
The median voter is a myth. There is no democratic voter who will vote for complicated, means-tested subsidies for private insurance, but will refuse to vote for free healthcare.
The voters who vote for luke-warm dems will vote for who they're told to vote for.