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Seen on reddit and other sources:

https://old.reddit.com/r/fresno/comments/1hxqlx7/the_more_i_try_to_save_energy_the_higher_the/

Its already 50c or more per kilowatt hour... https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/residential-electric-rate-plan-pricing.pdf

On top of the "The Electric Home Rate Plan includes a $15-per-month Base Services Charge"... because people were starting to get 100% of their power from solar and it was "unfair".

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No one is saying you should pay the same total bill as they do, just the same connection fee if you and crypto boy have the same hookup.

You'd pay $10 for a connection fee and $1 for power while they'd pay $10 for a connection fee and $1000 for power.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Understood.

And that "$10 connection fee" makes perfect sense for covering per-user administrative costs. The cost is the same to send a $1 bill or a $1000 bill to the customer; a per-user fee to cover that administrative fee is not unreasonable.

But they aren't talking about administration. They are talking about infrastructure maintenance. Infrastructure is a shared resource, and the maintenance costs scale (primarily) with total consumption, not per-user.

From the original comment:

Hence, the split that many utility companies are shifting to. There's a fixed charge to have a connection to the grid, which covers the cost of grid maintenance. And there's a separate cost per kWh of energy used.

That "fixed cost to have a connection to the grid" does not cover grid maintenance. Grid maintenance costs are proportional to consumption, not number-of-users. It does not make sense that this fee should be divided among users rather than based on consumption.