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There's a thread of replies arguing on the semantics of communism, name-dropping stuff like Krause and Nomad (willfully ignoring the fact that FaceDeer's issue is about LemmyGrad and not communism), and repeating "you've chosen to engage with me" while this is very obviously the other way around.
Facedeer started the conversation, while loudly proclaiming that he doesn't want to. What's wrong with pointing out that he's the one engaging?
Homie admits that he doesn't know anything about communism, but says his issue is with how Lemmygrad is not communist. Their issue is with ML communism.
Nope. I don't care whether they're communist or not, they're apologists for authoritarians. The communism thing is just an excuse they dress that up in.
You said previously:
I was challenging your implied assertion that LG isn't communist, or that currently existing socialist countries aren't communist.
(For clarity, I'm using the terms "socialist", "communist" and "Marxist-leninist" mostly interchangeably. That tends to be the practice in ML spaces, I'm happy to expand on that if it's helpful).
It doesn't seem like you've got the knowledge base to argue whether or not a country like China or the DPRK is or isn't socialist. If you want to argue that they're bad because they're authoritarian, that's fine by me.
Can you help me understand what you mean by "authoritarian" and how it doesn't apply to Western/liberal democracies?
It's my understanding that every state uses authority to force some level of compliance at some expense to personal freedom (i.e. giving me a ticket for making graffiti is authoritarian).
I don't agree that every state's use of authority is a bad thing.