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[–] breadsmasher 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sure. Except the wealth and productivity increases will not benefit society but the few wealthy capitalists that own it

[–] Nevoic 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We have 3 paths forward:

  • liberal capitalist solution (à la Tucker Carlson): ban AI and allow workers to do bullshit jobs
  • alternative liberal capitalist solution: let excess workers die in the streets because they're no longer needed for production
  • socialist solution: distribute the means of production (AI in this case) so we can share equitably in its output

I'd advocate for the socialist one, it sounds like you might be more in line with Tucker Carlson's thinking here?

[–] breadsmasher 18 points 1 year ago

Not at all. I support, from your options, the socialist solution.

AI should free people to do other things. It should benefit the people - if AI can automate 50% of all jobs, rather than just throwing all of those people to the street, we should expect to have to work less without a reduction in income. Thats AI benefiting society. Instead, that 50% reduction in labour and costs just fills the pockets of CEOs and shareholders, without any care for people now out of work.

Also - fuck carlson. guy is a cunt

[–] Synthead 10 points 1 year ago

This is a black and white fallacy and a loaded question. There are more options, blends of options, and circumstances that make different options better for some groups. The two first options are also "bullshit" or "dying," which doesn't give the party making a decision a rational choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

One nice thing about the "alternative liberal capitalist solution" is that it morphs into the "socialist solution" when the excess workers eat the wealthy AI owners. Hopefully they'll realize this and choose the more graceful exit that at least leaves them with some of their wealth.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bouh 3 points 1 year ago

Everything benefits wealthy capitalists that own everything. The solution is not to keep people in shitty jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I absolutely agree, but it isn't an issue with automation in itself, but rather the political system that doesn't allow to correct that issue.