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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I totally get what you mean. People have a similar obsession with where I live (Switzerland), being a paradise on earth.

Sure it might be if you’re upper middle class, but people still die in the streets, we still have massive inequality etc.

[–] Dasus 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well I don't think we have lots of people dying on the streets to be honest.

Is homelessness really much of a thing in Switzerland? Not a relatively huge issue compared to other Western countries, according to a fast query from Google.

It's so annoying though, because of being relatively well off, anytime you seek to improve anything about Finland, people go "you should be thankful you don't live in Africa" or some shit. As a kid it was "theres hungry kids in Africa" when I felt nauseous eating and they practically forced me. And just now fucking 30 years later I figure out why I had such a hard time eating; I have a sensitivity to gluten.

But as not complaining belongs to Finnish culture, me complaining of a chronic issue was soon completely ignored and I was just considered a whiny kid. Mom even like threatened me with going to a doctor. As if she "knew" I was faking it. I WANTED to go. And then unfortunately they found a congenital kidney thing so my stomach issues got overlooked for another 15 years.

We have a word "hyvinvointivaltio", which is "welfare state" in Finnish. Literally its "good feeling state". "Voida hyvin" is literally "doing/feeling well/good" if you change the "hyvin" to its opposite "pahoin", its the word for bad. And "voida pahoin" is "being nauseous" (lit ~"feeling bad").

So you can change "hyvinvointivaltio" = welfare state, into "pahoinvointivaltio" as a 'funny' joke to make it "nausea state" or "a country in which everyone is feeling nauseous and/or doing bad"

I think I wasted a bit of time. If a joke dies when it's explained then it extra dies when it's explained while awkwardly translating it. And it really wasn't much of a funny in the first place. More like an "acab" style slogan you can curse at the benefits office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have so much uncounted homelessness. The government throws homeless people in warehouses that are super dangerous and where people literally starve, but then they can hide the problem from the population and make the statistics look good.

[–] Dasus 1 points 1 week ago

I mean the numbers seem relatively low but they can lie quite a lot.

Sounds nasty. I want to look into that a little.

Here it's just the housing first so even drunks and junkies have apartments. Like if you really have a huge drug issue and end up not even applying for benefits or drinking all your rent money and some of that is paid directly to your landlord from the benefits people so it's kinda hard to get so behind in rent that you actually get evicted.

But this causes problem imo because there's just tons of bureaucratic "traps" sort of keeping people in these situations.