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I've been shooting every now and then for the last 20-ish years and I'm a decent shot. I've shot a handful of different pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Leaning towards getting a pistol, not totally sure what I'd get. It would be for home/self defense but I like to go to the range sometimes. I'm considering:

  • Some sort of 1911
  • Ruger LC380 (is it even possible to get a CCW in CA?)

Any thoughts/recommendations?

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[–] SupraMario 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Semi-automatic...

Cz75 sp-01 for full frame

Any of the 9mm cz compacts for well smaller frame

The question is why a handgun if you're keeping it just for home defense and not carrying it?

Get an AR.

[–] setsneedtofeed 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The terminology for handguns is a little wonky, as "automatic" is a long running term for automatically loading, semi-auto pistols. It's not incorrect to say semi-automatic pistol , but the insistence on saying it is somewhat new compared to historical term use.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know where you are from, but no one says automatic handgun here in the states. As automatic, is exactly that around here: hold trigger and it mag dumps. Semi-auto is just pointing out it's not a revolver.

[–] setsneedtofeed 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You might not like it, but "automatic" has been a term for semi-automatic self loading handguns. Here is an NRA article written in 2024 repeatedly referring to "automatics". John Browning himself developed "ACP"- Automatic Colt Pistol cartridges, which were named such at the time, which were used for Colt Automatic Pistols.

Non-Colt pistols have also been referred to by their makers as automatics. A Bauer "Automatic 25" example.. A family of Webley & Scott handguns.

As to use, people still put up listings referring to self loading pistols as "automatics".

And another listing.

You can buy a 7th edition of book called Gun Digest Book of Automatic Pistols Assembly/Disassembly which was refreshed in 2022 and still kept the name.

And for good measure, this isn't even a pistol but shows historical willingness to consider self loading as automatic, the Browning Automatic-5 shotgun.

You can disagree if it is a good term, you can use other terms, but it is a thoroughly established and used term.

[–] SupraMario 1 points 1 month ago

While I know no one who says automatic pistols, as everyone instantly thinks...well automatic machine gun. It is very interesting to see your links. This is the first time I've seen the term used this way. Thanks for the info.

I'm still going to refer to the as semi-auto lol ...the anti-2a crowd doesn't need more metaphorical ammo.

[–] shalafi 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Paul Harrell always called them "auto loading pistols".

[–] SupraMario 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea, but that's different than automatic. The other user has pointed out that it is a term, but as I stated no one I've ever talked firearms with or even been around calls them automatic pistols. We just call them pistols or revolvers or even wheel guns...this is at ranges and matches all over the USA. It's not a common term. When someone says automatic, they're talking about a giggle switch for their pistol or rifle. It's just not common.

Not that the term is wrong or anything, it's just not common.

[–] ramenshaman 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm not even allowed to say "AR" here in CA

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I know multiple people here who own AR-15s, and have shot multiple

They (stupidly) restrict a lot of attachments but the gun is legal here

Or, since it's home defense: the Remington ~~680~~ 870 (the 680 is a cod gun and idk why autocorrect did that lol) is great

[–] ramenshaman 2 points 1 month ago

The only people I know who have them here are vets. Either way I'm looking for something a little tamer, my gf would have a fit if I came home with an AR. I'll have to check out the 680.

[–] ramenshaman 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not seeing the 680 anywhere, you sure that's the right number? Maybe it was discontinued?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol gboard autocorrected it to the fucking call of duty one holy shit I don't even use this phone for those where did it learn ghat

The real one is the 8 7 0, no spaces

[–] ramenshaman 1 points 1 month ago

LOL ok I see it now. Yeah I would shoot that. Not sure if I want a shotgun for my first gun but I'll keep that in mind.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 1 month ago

Oof yea that's true. Then go CZ. Once you go CZ everything will feel like cheap junk