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Summary

Blanca Ojanguren, a 22-year-old Spanish tourist, was fatally attacked by an elephant at the Koh Yao Elephant Care sanctuary in Thailand while bathing the animal.

She was struck by its tusk, resulting in fatal injuries.

This tragedy highlights the risks of popular recreational activities involving elephants in Thailand.

It follows a recent fatal attack by a wild elephant on a Thai woman and adds to the 39 elephant-related deaths reported in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Well, there is a pretty big difference between a carnivore/omnivore and a herbivore animal when it comes to how dangerous they are to other animals including humans.

But certainly not "safe" since they're so huge, powerful and wild animals.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Large herbivores are usually extremely dangerous animals. They have to be able to fight off the carnivores.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And humans are carnivores. And it doesn't matter if you're vegan, the animal can't tell.

Usually prey animals determine if another animal is a threat from the placement of their eyes. Front facing eyes usually mean the animal is built for hunting prey, and side-mounted eyes are for prey needing to keep aware of their surroundings.

We have front facing eyes so most animals immediately will register us as a threat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Source? This sounds incredibly made up

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am not doubting that eye placement is a strong, but not decisive, indicator where the animal falls on the predator/prey divide. That is a very basic fact of zoology. I am doubting the claim that prey animals categorize non-native, and therefore unknown, species as a threat by this eye placement.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You just said it was made up and now you're moving the goal posts. Stop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The initial comment claimed

We have front facing eyes so most animals immediately will register us as a threat.

Which goalposts are being moved? Also, I'm happy to be disproven by a source

[–] Neon 2 points 2 days ago

"I don't have to proof I'm right"

Yes you do

[–] Kbobabob 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of the most dangerous animals is a hippo...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Most dangerous" is misleading. Yes, they appear on various top-ten lists if dangerous animals, and you should never approach one, but the annual deaths are only in the triple digits. Mosquitos and humans are a vastly bigger threat.

[–] AWittyUsername 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How many people encounter mosquitos Vs hippos?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

That's a good question but still not the whole story. It's easy to avoid a hippo but damn near impossible to avoid mosquitos if they live in your climate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bison are also herbivores and there's no way in hell I'm going to pet those things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Ya, I'm not walking up to an elephant either.

My aunt owns a herd of Hyland cows (which have huge horns) and they are not aggressive at all but can accidentally hurt you with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Herbivores that have tusks or antlers rarely aren't dangerous to humans (even domesticated like deers or cows), big herbivores even more so. Elphants are the animals that often kill other big animals for fun with their big tusks, you can look up elephant kills rhino for example.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Tell that to people encountering Moose.

People are scared of bears, and fail to realize a Moose will merc you just for looking at it wrong.

And once it has decided that, it doesn't stop until you stop.

[–] AWittyUsername 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hippopotamus is one of the most dangerous animals in existence and it's a herbivore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

My point was a response to the comment I replied to saying he didn't understand why people would pet an elephant but not a lion or bear

Of course literally all large wild animals are dangerous and I wasn't disputing that one bit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Looking at some lists of the most dangerous animals, most deaths seem to be a result of the animals spreading diseases or using venom. The only animal most people need to be worried about killing them using size and strength is another person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was just responding to the comment about why people would pet an elephant over a lion or bear.

If I was told I had to Walk into one of two rooms, both having completely wild animals, I'd pick the elephant over a lion or bear 100% of the time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

In that case I'd agree with you. It seems like the only objective way to say how dangerous an animal is is to look at something like reported deaths, but you'd really want to divide those numbers by some measure of how frequently each animal encounters a human, and they data is not so readily available.