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[–] GoofSchmoofer 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My feeling, and I've posted about before, is that the progressive wing doesn't have a leader that inspires people to take action. Bernie and AOC are pretty much the only two that have any national recognition but they are playing the game from inside. I truly believe that for the progressive side to actually make inroads and to have the power to hold the right-wing and corporate democrats accountable they need a very intelligent brash leader. Some one that can fire up the base and get people to want to do more than vent some steam online.

But until that person comes into reality, the progressives will just be a bunch of squawking angry individuals blowing steam off online and being continually ignored by the rest of the political spectrum and the national media.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe 5 points 2 days ago

Ignore that guy, he's just as ineffective as the argument he's calling out.

"Don't lament or complain, get grass roots"

My city voted in a mayor who was caught 4 months prior drunk behind the wheel with his neice in the back seat. They also voted (about 93%) for a lieutenant governor who said he wants to put interracial marriage laws "back to the states". The grassroots movements have failed time and again here, and the population has no interest in changing.

I'm not saying don't try, but giving half assed "get organizef" advice is the same as people complaining, it gives no tangible assistance and makes YOU feel like you're working to resolve the problems. Where's your volunteer group? Did you canvas this year? The answer for a majority of people has been 'No', so instead of complaining about people complaining, maybe try redirecting to legitimate strategies or at the very least show some compassion for others' plights. People complaining isn't leading to less action, the powers that be have stacked the deck so hard in their favor that the common man is running out of methods to fight it.

Protests are being silenced, they're calling in the cops before anythings been done and then violence escalates immediately. YES other protests have been met with violence, but at this stage in the American system the average person is a paycheck or two away from being homeless and you expect them to put themselves in a position that can and WILL result in jail time? Black Lives Matter over here had a kid lose an eye from the dipshit cops' tear gas canisters pointed right at his noggin', you think people are as inclined to come out and show support when that's what's to be expected?

I'm not saying don't go out and participate. I'm donating locally. Trying to find political groups i can spend maybe an hour or two participating in a week (so far, no one feels safe enough or that there's enough support..so, college groups is all we've got), but mostly, I'm just trying to get the fuck out of the craziest places and move somewhere sensible where me and my partner's rights aren't up for debate. And I've seen plenty of people who post with the tone that you did above say that leaving is "part of the problem" and that we'd leave the state with less sensible voters.

[–] Potatisen 1 points 2 days ago

It doesn't matter man, you're not doing anything. Just another post about some hypothetical scenario that'll never be a reality. See what I mean? You have to stop thinking this way.