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I really don’t know why you reiterated what I said while saying I was wrong in some way while inserting a non-normative that wasn’t on the table. I said it leans a direction without being exclusive to that trait. ASD is pretty well known for often having difficulty with transitions. Yeah, it’s all a spectrum and they can all share traits, but there was no need for me to engage in pedantry having to describe and compare each condition, and ODD is a different issue all by itself that doesn’t stop at just changing gears.
This is unnecessary. This is a thing that happens in ADHD. It doesn't need to "lean" toward something else, and every time someone shows up and tries to say that a trait of ADHD is "more" something other than ADHD it's downright unhelpful.
There's some crazy thing like 50% symptom overlap between ADHD and ASD. People with ADHD are allowed to just talk about their ADHD without someone trying to assert that it's "more" belonging to something else. It's unfair, and it muddies the waters when people are trying to figure out what they have going on.
It would be like me going to a place where people are discussing ASD and saying, "I think that executive dysfunction leans a little toward the ADHD side of things," even though both ASD and ADHD can have problems with executive dysfunction.
I'm not the person you were talking to...but that would be absolutely fine? People can have more than one thing, and so many people with ASD have ADHD that in my opinion it's not really like you have two totally distinct conditions. Like you say, there's a huge symptom overlap and we may eventually discover that they share a lot of neurological similarities / developmental causes.
If you are someone who is trying to figure out what you have going on and the symptoms fit multiple conditions, then it would be totally legit to consider whether it's ADHD or ASD, right?
I'm pretty sure in 50 years we will see the way a lot of these conditions are classified, ASD in particular, as very flawed. We are lumping so many very different symptoms into one basket that you could have two people with ASD who are completely different, and it tells you almost nothing about what to expect from a person to know they have ASD.
The original question was, "is this a feature of ADHD?" And the answer to that question is yes. And among the people I know (we tend to run in neurodivergent circles if we are neurodivergent ourselves) it's extremely common as a symptom all across the board.
In a conversation where people are already talking about ADHD, it is better to say "yes, and it can also be found in ASD" than it is to say, "It's more ASD than ADHD" which is false, whether you're prefacing it with a feeling statement or not.
I don’t know why you’re still on about this. This is the second time I’ve told you: I did not say it was an exclusive trait to ASD , which for some reason you seem to want to imply. I said it leaned more towards ASD, not exclusive to it.
But seeing as you want to keep digging: The DSM 5 does NOT list emotional dysregulation as a feature of ADHD. However, many legit psychological papers list emotional dysregulation as most likely to occur in combined ADHD (inattentive and hyper types). ASD does feature emotional dysregulation as a feature of that condition in the DSM 5, though it isn’t necessary for diagnosis. Combined ADHD is often a comorbidity of ASD. Ergo, those with AuDHD are more likely to have difficulty with emotional dysregulation, and emotional dysregulation is a well known feature of ASD and is not necessarily part of each ADHD type - hyper, inattentive, or combined.
It’s a spectrum, but one diagnosis type can exhibit more of a trait than another. Like I said, my whole family is non-normative. We’ve been down this rabbit hole.
Someone else replied to me! It's normal to answer someone, jesus.
But back to the point I made in my last reply directly to you- jumping in to say it's "more" something else when people are talking about something specific is not helpful when it's a perfectly acceptable symptom of the thing we're talking about.