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[–] electricyarn 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

That these things exist independently of capitalism, probably

[–] RupeThereItIs 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not the guy you responded too, but his point is obvious.

The assertion that capitalism is the root cause of the atrocities listed based purely on their existing at the same time is evidence of nothing.

People have always been like this, increases in technology have helped increase mans mistreatment of his fellow man. Economic system be damned, that's not the point.

Or do you think mercantilism or feudalism where actually any better?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Capitalism being better than feudalism is not a high bar. A system that ties a human life's worth to the capital they generate will always create disparity

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"X was worse than Y" does not mean "Y is the optimum" or that "Y is the ethical way a society should be run."

Chattel slavery is worse than indentured servitude. Neither was a good thing.

[–] RupeThereItIs 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Neither is correlation with atrocities proof of the economic system NOT being ethical or the way we should run society.

The point is correlation is not causation, and in fact we KNOW that capitalism is better then previous systems.

We also know if no other system that works to replace capitalism yet, other then the previous and worse systems.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know that being kicked in the nuts is better than being shot in the chest. That doesn't mean I want to go through either event.

[–] RupeThereItIs 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well I've got bad news for ya, there's nothing any better that's yet been devised.

Human nature is not great, and barring a massive population collapse this is how it's gonna be.

And frankly, it's better then it's ever been in all of human history for those of us in the developed world.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 days ago

Well I’ve got bad news for ya, there’s nothing any better that’s yet been devised.

Sure there is. It's called socialism. It's where everyone's basic needs are provided for, but people can still earn money above that and buy nicer things.

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 3 days ago

Sounds like they're trying to say "blame the Jews."