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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fuck man, to get back to a US president that actually cared about labor you probably need to go all the way back to FDR. JFK is debatable - RFK (not the junior fuck) would have probably been a strong advocate but JFK was more centrist.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We really gotta stop using "centrist" instead of pro-corporate. That's just establishment sleight of hand to make pro-corporate policies look like the defaults.

[–] breadsmasher 9 points 1 month ago

centrist is just “weakly pro billionaire”. Which is still pro billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you like - personally centrist, in my mind, just means "Doesn't stand for shit except self enrichment"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

At best, a centrist indirectly supports the status quo, which in our time is Neoliberalism, at worst, they're ghouls underneath that mask.

[–] disguy_ovahea 1 points 1 month ago

Especially because the corporate support increases from center to right. Libertarians want to eliminate regulations on businesses, and the far right wants to accelerate inequality by lifting regulations on, and subsidizing the overhead for, the wealthiest corporations.

I agree that pro-corporate makes far more sense than centrist. “Not far-left” would also work, but it’s clunky.

[–] seaQueue 0 points 1 month ago

So ... Neoliberal

[–] Nuke_the_whales 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People like fdr only cared about white workers

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People like fdr only cared about white workers

Hmmph... with a mindset like that, you could read settlers, lmao (It's just a joke, never read, in my life)

But then again, this book might be too extreme for your tastes.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait are we now pretending like fdr, the guy who threw thousands of Asia. Americans in camps was not a piece of shit? At best he was not against black rights, but he was not about to spend political capital in helping black people. He was one of those so called allies who claims he wants equality for black people, but wants black people to behave, earn it and wait a few decades. That's no ally at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Now that I think of it, he's a POS. But granted, I guess what rose-tinted my glasses towards him is him being president to declare war against the fascists of Japan, Italy, and Nazi (the latter, prolly conditionally) and his lend-lease aid to USSR.

I can say he was a necessary evil, but no long-term ally indeed