this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2024
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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The first image in the post body, your comment that got removed, says the complete opposite.
It's not up to you, or anyone else, to label someone's use of pronouns as trolling. If you think they are, block them, and move on. If you have solid proof that they have I'll intent, report them, block them, and move on. I don't know why you're surprised that a trans safe space is removing comments and banning people for vigilante misgendering.
"I'm going to leave Blahaj because I don't acknowledge dragonfucker is a gender" says literally nothing about whether I'd use pronouns, including drag's.
EDIT: Oh, sorry, the post body? That one I'm quoting up to "as gatekeeping", I understand that might not be entirely clear at a glance due to modlogs not preserving formatting.
Yeah you caught it, I meant the one in the post body. I've read your comment before it was removed (and actually upvoted some others in the thread), so I'm aware of the formatting. But the comment you're quoting says very explicitly that they will never use neopronouns and will respect gender identities only if they limit themselves to he/she/they. That's the reason it got removed for gatekeeping, which seems perfectly reasonable to me.
No one is forcing anyone to use specific pronouns. If you don't like how someone wants to be referred to, either refer to them by name, or block them and move on. blahaj.zone is an explicitly queer instance where a sizable percentage of users are trans, and neopronouns are accepted. It's unfortunate if trolls abuse that trust, but imo it's way more harmful if someone started policing acceptable gender identities in a nominal safe space, than if a few trolls slip through. This only got to be such a big drama because some people got very defensive (and rude) about it.
I'll be sad to see you leave blahaj, I really appreciate all the activity and posts you're bringing to lemmy as a whole. But if this is the hill you're willing to die on, I guess blajhai is not for you. I'll see you on [email protected] c:
If it was a legitimate removal, for the sake of the argument, is removing someone quoting the modlog as reason why they're leaving itself also gatekeeping? And the other two comments of mine that were removed for gatekeeping?
Again, my problem isn't in pronoun usage being enforced. It's that additionally, Ada seems to regard any denial that 'dragonfucker' is a gender as gatekeeping, and I'm not eager to stick around for that particular path. Principles rarely benefit from being applied without limitation.
"I'm leaving Blahaj but I'm sad" turned to "I'm leaving Blahaj but I'm sad and mildly irritated" when Ada removed my comments for gatekeeping, to "I'm glad I'm leaving Blahaj" when numerous people showed up here to accuse me of transphobia and a dozen other different things explicitly over the case of doubting whether dragonfucker was a gender.
Glory of the Fediverse, right? See you around!
I think it's disappointing how many people have suddenly jumped to conclusions that you're somehow a transphobe over all of this. It's like they were waiting for an opportunity to jump on somebody and attack them. Drag is so obviously a troll that I find it sad that Blahaj is bending over backwards to defend them and damaging their credibility, and that a community supposedly based on kindness and acceptance is being so vitriolic towards you because of this. I'm sure Drag loves the drama this has all caused.
Me too. I don’t think Pug’s a transphobe, but I also don’t think Pug understands the scale of the harassment trans people face on a daily basis. Like it’s so bad the users would rather just have potential trolls ignored and downvoted than to see well meaning cis people come in and do vigilante justice.
That empathetic disconnect looks like transphobia to some users. I don’t think the users are right, but I understand how they reached that conclusion, especially with Pug’s days-long soapbox about how despotic Ada is.
I see that you, also, are misconceiving what the purpose of Ada’s decision. It’s not about protecting drag, it’s about protecting everyone by not letting people be judge, jury, and executioner in the comments.
Is there some special rule in play here? People get accused of "trolling" and banned when there is no trolling a lot. Check modlogs.