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Sweden’s burial associations are seeking land to prepare for potential mass wartime burials, prompting new crisis readiness guidelines following the country’s decision to join NATO amid rising tensions with Russia.

In Gothenburg, officials aim to acquire 10 acres for emergency burials and 15 acres for regular cemetery use.

Sweden’s neutrality ended after Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, prompting civil defense measures and NATO membership.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

In theory, wouldn't this eventually become a problem for every country? That is, an infinite parade of people dying and finite land area?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Russians had mobile crematoria, just saying.

It's ridiculous that this is back on the agenda, why can't we just stop killing people?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Putin wants what they've got, and he's willing to [send people to] kill for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does a mobile crematorium even work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bodies go in the back of the truck, heat is applied, ashes come out. Ashes are then scattered and in the case of Russia, the men are forgotten and declared MIA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

(damn that's grim) Ah, the honorable war hero treatment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You can't go handing out Ladas so easily, some people already had to get a lot of Cheetos instead.

Life is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

At some point someone will stop paying for the cemetery plot and that plot will go to somebody else, usually 50 years after the person is dead and all their direct relatives don't care anymore. The old bones are buried deeper or cremated and the grave stones will be recycled. Corpses don't become permanent owners of cemetery land. Maybe in some honorary great war cemetery as a recognition of the sacrifices, but not as a norm. They're leased for the purposes of decomposition.

Some families can buy mausoleums, which are like little houses on the cemetery, where they end up keeping all the bones of several people all piled up in jars after the bodies are decomposed, but these mausoleums have to be paid for by someone who is alive and at some point there are no descendants or the descendants are too poor to pay or don't care to pay thousands of euros every so often for the plot and maintenance dues on dead people, so they are torn down and the bones put into the deeper parts of the cemetery with everyone else, where, depending on the soil, it takes between 30-50 years to decompose the bones, provided the cemetery is built on appropriate decomposing ground, but sometimes over 100 if the soil is not appropriate for a cemetery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a fucking joke. I need to make a will before someone does something stupid as fuck like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your will will be enforced until such a time comes where nobody really cares anymore and the trust you set up ran out of money. Probably around the time when there's no one alive that met you personally. I'm sure a lot of Romans and Egyptians, emperors, empresses, kings and queens had wills too. Even the pharaos had their graves dug up and put in a museum for everyone to see. Just embrace it, you'll be gone, off to a merry afterlife or the quiet obliviousness of non existence. Why worry so much about bones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you have a stable population, and a fixed amount of time graves are used you could just have a certain amount of cemetary space set aside and be fine. Mass casualty events like wars and pandemics can change these things, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not quite, as corpses eventually decay completely.

[–] SelfHigh5 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Well, I surely know that my mummy isn't going to decay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Lol, good point. So what I hear you saying is... instead of a simple hard limit, there is a kind of 'tipping point', and we will be fine so long as bones are produced at a lesser rate than they decay. Since the bone production rate is [probably] proportional to population, as long as the population is not increasing without bound...

[–] TonyOstrich 3 points 1 month ago

Unless you live in a place that legally requires all casks to be placed into a cement vault when they are buried. I guess technically the body does still decompose, but volume consumed by the entire endeavor doesn't really change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Pretty much yes, we just sadly don't really take that into account. Also, eventually burial sites get abandoned for one reason or another, everyone forgets about them, and the land either returns to nature or is reused.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Not everyone is buried like that. Cremation, green burials, body donation, and other options exist.

And a grave lot may be reclaimed after a period of time, usually either a set duration or when there's been no activity on the lot (e.g. further burials on a family lot).

[–] TheBat 1 points 1 month ago

Not in India. Hindus do cremation, not burial.