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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


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Edit: I also just got banned for apparently being a troll. Me. Not the person they believe to be a dragon though.

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[–] PugJesus 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As stated elsewhere here, most people would not interpret "Don't question people's gender identity" as "Don't say dragons aren't real or that people can't be dragons".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I disagree. It is a community for gender diverse folk and the rules are there to protect them. This is not about the dragon. It is about respecting someone's identity. "Dragons aren't real" in the context of someone identifying as a dragon is no different than a TERF telling a trans woman that trans women don't exist. It it inherently questioning her identity, transphobic, and attacking her.

Can you see how that would be problematic? I think anyone surpise pikachu'ed by this should consider learning how to be a better ally instead of thinking they can say hurtful stuff.

[–] PugJesus 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I disagree.

As I said, 'most people would not interpret', and there is certainly a large number of people who quite clearly and vocally did not interpret the rule in the way that it has been clarified.

It it inherently questioning her identity,

Yes, in this case, because dragons are literally not real.

Questioning an identity that is at odds with reality is not a sin.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

As i said, it's not about drag. Regardless if you think drag is trolling, there are people who identity as fae/faerie. Are you going to tell them they don't exist too?

[–] PugJesus 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As i said, it’s not about drag. Regardless if you think drag is trolling, there are people who identity as fae/faerie. Are you going to tell them they don’t exist too?

If they mean 'faerie' as in 'literally one of the fae folk'? Yes, this is not much of a surprise to anyone past the age of kindergarten, but the fae folk aren't real either. Holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What does it mean to identify as a fae? Do they literally think they're a fae from folklore?

And to be clear, this is a genuine question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm no authority to speak on this, but I can say (gender) identity and pronouns aren't necessarily linked. Some people might lean into the fairy thing for their aesthetic or identity, others wouldn't. Some might use fae/faer pronouns explicitly to break out of the gender binary / ternary, others might just find that these pronouns fit them. I hope someone with more knowledge on the matter could weigh on.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Not actively and unprompted, but since you're asking: yes, fae aren't real (and if we ever discover them hiding somewhere, I'll happily apologise!).

And no, I'm not a transphobe or whatever label you're gonna try and put on me. But obvious trolls baiting people into getting banned, because dragons aren't real no matter how you "identify", are not a good look for you.

Looks like you prefer trolls to people who actually care about trans issues, in which case: good luck with your communities!