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Two of the data links are marine cables operated by Elisa, running between Helsinki and Tallinn, Estonia. One also running from Helsinki to Tallinn is owned by the Chinese-owned CITIC Telecom.

The fourth cable is Cinia's C-Lion1 submarine cable, which connects Helsinki to Germany. Finnish state-owned company Cinia has pinpointed the damage to its cable southeast of the Porkkala peninsula, just west of Helsinki on the Gulf of Finland.

According to the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency (Traficom), Elisa's cables have been severed, and two other cables have sustained damage.

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[–] DarkCloud 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you're fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.

Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment

It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you're the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there's no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it's demise, or attacking it's infrastructure.

People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That's all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.

"No" means you do not want to have a nation. That's a pipedream.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it.

The police quick response unit stormed the ship wielding guns. They were willing to kill and luckily they didn't have to. There's absolutely zero need to execute the crew. That's an insane thing to suggest.

[–] DarkCloud 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

They were enlisted in espionage, it's the ONLY way to respond if you have any respect for western freedom/democracy.

Do you want a foriegn invasion or corruption of western democracy, freedoms, rights? No, of course not. Do you have the people responsible caught redhanded, yes. Do you want to send a message to never do this again, or that there's swift and harsh consequences. Yes. Death is a good deterrent.