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It presents a slight problem when the ones they're bringing in to deal with the shitty politicians are the people who paid them to be shitty in the first place.

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[–] finitebanjo 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

You mean like HR 1 For the People Act which passed the house twice but got filibustered and 30 years of campaign finance reform starting with a 1995 bill outlawing large donations (which was passed in 2002 but stricken down by the scotus 5:4 as the basis for Citizens United) that

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Republicans refuse to pass?

This is a partisan issue, bothsidesing this is pure ignorance. Get 60 Dem senators and watch it get fixed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (12 children)

So here's the deal. Republicans are objectively worse. Full stop. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just wrong.

But that doesn't absolve Democrats. Why did they never enshrine abortion rights into law in the decades since Roe v Wade? Why is it every time they have control suddenly they are helpless to actually deliver on their promises? Why do they refuse to do anything beyond lip service for unions? Why won't they get rid of the filibuster? Why didn't Biden even try to expand the supreme court as soon as it was clear it was corrupted?

Democrats are controlled opposition, that's it. When the plebs start getting rowdy they jump in to control the movement and bring it back in line.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are going to go against the wealthy who own them. And the sooner we all start working in that reality the better.

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Right right, that's all fine, but we need to elect minimum 60 Democrats. Full stop. We need to support electing 60 Democrats. We can all gather around and discuss how to sort out our Democrats after we remove the Republican Menace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You kinda worked yourself into a dead end there. It's impossible for 60 democrats to win in the Senate with the way the DNC currently acts. The idea that people need to just believe in the DNC is never going to sway the average voter who's getting poorer by the day.

We can all gather around and discuss how to sort out our Democrats after we remove the Republican Menace.

Remove it from... What, exactly? Even if they do win 60 seats, do you think Republicans will disappear from existence? They'll fuck around with their lame duck policies and get their ass handed to them by the GOP the next election. And setting all that aside: They could've just fucking gotten rid of the filibuster. The fact they haven't after what the GOP did during Obama's term should tell you all you need to know.

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

DNC don't decide if they win, we do. This is our job to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

And it's never getting done, is the point here. This talk of jobs and duty will never get voters, no matter how much anyone wants it to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

60 Democrats HAVE been elected before and nothing changed...

Did you even read my comment?

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

We had 60 for less than one month almost two decades ago. Since then we've elected less every year and blamed them more every year.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Curious that, if all they need is 60 Democrats, why they didn't seize that opportunity to try and deliver everything they've promised. Working 24/7 to pass bill after bill. And instead just squandered it...

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah they should have asked the house nicely to vote to reform every system in the entire government in less than one month: you clearly do not want anything fixed, why are you being so disingenuous?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Nice personal attack. I guess I made you uncomfortable in your beliefs.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If me asking an honest question is a personal attack, then clearly the truth is your enemy.

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